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ሳምቻው ፓፓያ ......

Postby የመርካቶው ሰያ » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:14 pm

ፓፓያ ወደድኩህ ጥሩ ብለሀል
ሳምቻው አንተም እንዲሁ ወርቅ ሰው ነብስ ነህ
ማሸነፍ የሚቻለው በትዕግስት በብልሀት በቆራጥነት
እንጂ እዳር ቁጭ ብሎ ንፋው ግረዘው ውቃው...በማለት እንዳልሆነ የእስከዛሬ ተምክሯችን
ሕያው ማስረጃ ነው::
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Re: የኢትዮጵያ ፖለቲካ ልጅ የሚያቦካው አይነት አይደለም

Postby ወዲ ሰበርጉማ » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:10 pm

ሎነጻነት አታገላሎሁ ሲሉ ቆይተዉ የቁርጡ ቀን ሲመጣ የሚሸሹ ከሆነ ቆራጥነታቸዉ የት ላይ ነዉ???

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5 አመትን የኮንትራት ጊዜ አድርገህ ካቀረብኸዉ ያሎፉት 14 አመታትንስ ሎምን በዚሁ መልክ አይታዩም?? ሎነገሩ ህዝባችን አይደሎም 5 አመት ወያኔን የሚሸከምበት ሁሎት አመት ይወስዳል በተባሎዉ የብሄራዊ አንድነት መንግስት ዉስጥ እንኳ የወያኔን መሳተፍ አይፈልገዉም::

ዶ/ር ብርሀኑ ነጋ እዉነት በመናገርና በመሎሳሎስ ሎዉጥ ይመጣል ብሎ የሚያስብ ከሆነ ተሳስቷል ወይንም የወያኔን አላማና ፍላጎት በደንብ አልተረዳም ማሎት ነዉ:: ከዚህ ዉጭ ከሆነ ደግሞ ከዉስጥ የመነጨ ፍርቻ አሎው ማሎት ነዉ:: ይህ ከሆነ በጊዜ እራሱን ከትግሉ ቢያገል መልካም ይመስሎኛል::ምክኒያቱም የነጻነት ትግል መስዋትነትን ይጥይቃል:: እራሱን ሎመሰዋትነት ያላዘጋጀ ታጋይ ስሎ ነጻነት ትግል ሊያወራም አይቻሎዉም::


ሳምቻው wrote:

የኢትዮጵያ ፖለቲካ አንተ ከምታስበው በላይ የተጠላለፈ እና የተተበተበ ነው ::

ይህን ቱባ ሊፈታ የሚችለው ደግሞ; ብልህ ,ታጋሽ , አዋቂ , በተለይም በያዘው ስራ ቅን የሆነ (one who is determined) መሆን እንዳለበት ውድቀታችን ብቻ ያስተምረናል ::

ኢትዮጵያውያን ዛሬ የሚያሳስበን የዚህች ሀገር ማህበራዊ ደህንነት እና ከፊታችን የተደቀነው የሉአላዊነት ቀውስ ጉዳይ እንጂ ከ 5አመት በላይ ዘልቆ ስለማይሰራው የኮንትራት ፓርላማ እጣ ጉዳይ አይደለም ::

የ 3ሺ ኣመት ታሪክ አለን ስንል 5 አመት መታገስ እያቃተን መሆን የለበትም !

የ 5 አመት የስትራቴጂ ትግል ማካሄድ ይቀላል ወይስ ለ 50 አመታት የማይፈታ ማህበራዊ ቀውስ ውስጥ በደመ-ነፍስ ዥው ብሎ መግባት ይሻለናል ?

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አልተረዳሀኝም

Postby ሳምቻው » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:31 pm



ወዲ-ሰበርጉማ

የማንኛውም ሀገር ጤነኛ ዜጋ እንደሚያስበው ማሰብ ስትጀምር ልንጋባባ እንችላለን !

"" ብሄራዊ ፍቅር እና የመምራት ችሎታ ያለው መንግስት ይዘን , ጤናማ የሆነ ማህበረሰብ ከተጣናከረ የዲሞክራሲ'ና የፍትህ አካላት ጋር ልንገነባ ያሰፈልጋል ብለን ስንል አሁን እየታሻሽንበት ያለውን አሮጌ ፍራሽ በትግስት እና በጥበብ ቀይረን ስንጥል ነው ::

በዚህ ልንጋባባ ካልቻልን , እመነኝ , ከ ሁለት አንዳችን የኢትዮጵያን የፖለቲካ 'ና የማህበርዊ ቀውስ ቁስሎች በውል ያልተረዳን ድፍን እብዶች ነን ማለት ነው :: ይህንንም በከባድ አራት ነጥብ አልፈዋለሁ !

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Postby አለታ » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:47 pm

አገራችን አሁን ያለችበት የፖለቲካ ውጥረት እኛንም ከቀን ወደቀን እየተፈታተነን ነገሮችን በሰፊውና አርቀን ከማየት ይልቅ በስሜት ንዴቶቻችንን በየአጋጣሚው እንድንገልጽ እያስገደደን ነው ::

ይህ በስሜት የምናቀርበው ሀሳብ ራሳችንን ከማስደሰቱና አንዳንዶችንም ለጊዜው ከማስቀየም ባሻገር ሊያመጣ የሚችለው ለውጥ እንደማይኖር መገመቱ ቀላል ነው::
በዚህም ሆነ በዛ መልኩ እዚህ ፎረም ላይ ሀሳቦችን የምንሰነዝር ሰዎች በአብዛኛው መልኩ ለአገራችን ተቆርቋሪ ሆነን ነውና ለምን አንድ አይነት ሀሳብ አልኖረንም ብለንም ልንጣላ አይገባም ::

የማንወዳቸው ወይም ለአገሪቱ አይጠቅሙም የምንላቸው ሀሳቦች ከተሰነዘሩ እነዚህ ሀሳቦች ወይም ውሳኔዎች ያላቸውን ደካማ ይዘት ማጋለጥና ለየት ያለውን አማራጭ ሀሳብ ማቅረቡ አዋቂነት ሲሆን, የሀሳቡ አቅራቢዎችን መዝለፉ ግን መሳለቂያ እንድንሆን ምክንያት ከመፍጠሩ በስተቀር የሚፈይደው ነገር አይኖርም::

በዶክተር ብርሀኑ አቋም ላይ ያለንን ያለመስማማት መግለጹ ተገቢ ሆኖ ለዶክተር ብርሀኑ ግን ስም መስጠቱ ግን አጸያፊ መልክ እንዳለው መጠቆሜ ማንንም ሊያስቆጣ አይገባም ::
እስከአሁን ድረስ በተቃዋሚ መሪዎች የሚደረጉት እንቅስቃሴዎች ወይም ውሳኔዎች በየቀኑ የተለያየ ስሜት ውስጥ እያስገቡን ነውና የመረበሽ መልክ ይታይብናልና ይህንን በአስቸኳይ ማስወገድ ይኖርብናል:: መተራረምን በእጅጉ የምንፈልገውን ያህል እርስበርስም መዘላለፉ ጥንካሬያችንን የሚፈታተንና የሚጎዳን ነውና የምንፈልገውን ሀሳብ በምን መልክ ማቅረብ እንደሚኖርብን እንደገና ወደኋላ ተመልሰን ማሰብ ይኖርብናል:;

ወያኔ በየምክንያቱ ለራሱ እንደሚመቸው እያደረገ ከተቃዋሚዎች ጋር የተወሰነ ድርድር የማድረግ ልምዱ የሚታይ ነው::

ወያኔ ከአፈጣጠሩ ኢትዮጵያዊ አይደለምና በትግስትና በጥበብ በሚሉ ውብ ቃላቶች ዙርያ ተወሽቀን እድል የምንሰጠው መንግስት ያለመሆኑን መረዳት ይኖርብናል::ስለዚህ ዛሬ ተቃዋሚዎች በድርድር ሰበብ አስባብ የጠሩትን የስራ ማቆም አድማ መሰረዝ በእጅጉ ያሳዘነን ያህል, የትግላቸው ወይም የድርድራቸው ዋናው ነጥብ በመስከረም ወር ወያኔ በፈጠረው ችግር ላይ መሆኑ የጨዋታው (የትግሉ) መሪ ማነው የሚል ጥያቄ እንድንጠይቅ የሚያስገድደን ነው::

ምንም እንኳን ዛሬ እየታደኑ የሚታሰሩት ወንድም እህቶቻችን እንዲፈቱ ትልቅ ጩኸትና ትግል መኖር እንዳለበት ለሰከንድም የማንዘነጋው ቢሆንም , ዋናው ትግላችን የህዝብ ድምጽ ይከበር ነውና ከዚህ ዝንፍ ልንል አይገባም::

የትግላችንን አቅጣጫና ግብ ዛሬ ወያኔ የሚፈጥራቸው አዳዲስ ችግሮች ሊወስኑት አይገባም::

ወያኔ;
1.የታሰሩትን ሁሉ ፈታለሁ
2.ከምርጫው በኋላ የተለወጡ ህጎችን ወደነበሩበት እለውጣቸዋለሁ
3.ከድጋሚ ምርጫ በፊት የነበረውን የምርጫ ውጤት ተቀብያለሁ

ብሎ ቢወስን , ይህ የተቃዋሚዎች ድል የህዝብ ፍላጎት ነው ማለት ነው? በፍጹም አይደለምና ትግላችን ጥያቄያችን የህዝብ ድምጽ ሙሉ ለሙሉ መከበር ነውና ከዚህ ዝንፍ ማለት የለበትም::

የትግሉ ሜዳ ፓርላማ ነው የምንል ሰዎች ካለን እስከአሁን ተቃዋሚዎች ያደረጉትን ትግልና ድል መንሳት ነው :: የትግሉ ሜዳ ህዝብ ነው:: ታጋዩም ህዝብ ነውና የህዝብ ፍላጎት መከበርና መስዋዕትም ሊከፈልበት ይገባል::

ህዝብ ፓርላማ የመግባቱን ውሳኔ መስማት አይፈልግምና ይህንን ጩኸቱን በመረጋጋት ሰበብ እንዳታሳፍኑት መሪዎቻችንን እንጠይቃለን:: ዶክተር ብርሀኑ እየወሰድከው ያለከው አቋም የምንፈልገውን ውጤት አይሰጥምና እንደገና ህዝቡን አዳምጠው ከምንልህ ውጭ የትግል ጥንካሬህንና መሰረታዊ ፍላጎትህን (ዲሞክራሲ) ለጊዜው አንጠራጠርም:;
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Postby ወዲ ሰበርጉማ » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:47 pm

የጤነኛ ዜጋ አስተሳሰብ ስትል

ሀ) እንደ መለስ የሚያስብ
ለ) እንደ ዶ/ር ብርሀኑ ነጋ ነጻነት ያሎ መስዋትነት ይገኛል ብሎ የሚያስብ
ሐ) ሎነጻነት ትግል መስዋትነት ሎመክፍል መዘጋጀት ያስፈልጋል ብሎ የሚያስብ
መ) ነጻነት በችሮታ ይገኛል ብሎ እንደ ሳምቻዉ የሚያስብ



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የማንኛውም ሀገር ጤነኛ ዜጋ እንደሚያስበው ማሰብ ስትጀምር ልንጋባባ እንችላለን !

"" ብሄራዊ ፍቅር እና የመምራት ችሎታ ያለው መንግስት ይዘን , ጤናማ የሆነ ማህበረሰብ ከተጣናከረ የዲሞክራሲ'ና የፍትህ አካላት ጋር ልንገነባ ያሰፈልጋል ብለን ስንል አሁን እየታሻሽንበት ያለውን አሮጌ ፍራሽ በትግስት እና በጥበብ ቀይረን ስንጥል ነው ::

በዚህ ልንጋባባ ካልቻልን , እመነኝ , ከ ሁለት አንዳችን የኢትዮጵያን የፖለቲካ 'ና የማህበርዊ ቀውስ ቁስሎች በውል ያልተረዳን ድፍን እብዶች ነን ማለት ነው :: ይህንንም በከባድ አራት ነጥብ አልፈዋለሁ !

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Postby expert » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:57 pm

I got a couple of replies some good and some are not worth replying especially some of you are pushing me to go into the detail life of Dr. Birhanu, which I don't want at this time. Let's concentrate on the main issue and that is the issue of our country Ethiopia. For the sake of some of you who have positively responded to me, I will reciprocate by not using the words Banda and traitor for the dr. but he is wrong and dead wrong. I still believe his personal ambition and goals have blinded his focus. We all know to satisfy his personal ego how he went behind the CUD and accepted the conditions which was presented to him by Tim Clarke of the EU to address the election fraud. The CUD then for not creating a big mess out of it put this matter under the rug. I don't believe you all don't know this. This is just the tip of the ice berg about the dr. and Co. messing things up. Yes up until the elections he did a good job. Unfortunetly non of you have responded why the dr. is lobbying hard for the CUD to enter parliament. 95% of the Ethiopian people told them no parliament. We all know the nature of TPLF and it is crystal clear what TPLF wants and are doing for the last 14 years. Some of you like Samcha would like the Ethiopian people to give TPLF 5 more year and be patient. My dear friend you are also dead wrong. The Ethiopian people have been killed , imprisoned, tortured and as a nation our mother Ethiopia have been suffering for the last 14 years by the TPLF cronies. Don't you think it is enough. By the way the Ethiopian people using the ballot box have said bye bye to TPLF. If the CUD is the people's leaders they should not give not even one of the peoples votes to TPLF. Guys let's take the latest negotiation, it is disgusting to see the CUD accepting to negotiate without any pre-conditions while TPLF forwarded pre-conditionsl like the cancellation of the work Stopage. Members and supporters are still being rounded up as of today while the so called negtiations are taking place. If we all recall TPLF was firing bullets while negotiating with the Derg. The least CUD should have done was to ask for all political prisioners release and then talk. Still TPLF would have accepted. They had no choice. We all know how TPLF is scared of the people. My main mission is to bring the likes of the dr. to the main stream and keep them fighting for the people and not mixing the fight with their personal agenda which have dilluted the situation. Yes the struggle is complicated no body said it is a piece of cake. Enetering the fake parliament is not only sucide for CUD but will be shameful act committed aganist the Ethiopian people by their own. At least we know TPLF is not Ethiopian. But to think that our own will decide to pro-long the pain and suffering of the Ethiopian people is realy sad. The other funny and in my opinion the stupidest thing I am hearing these days is that some people the likes of Papapaya is that since we are all in US or Europe we shouldn't give advise or express our thoughts concerning the political situation back home , especailly if any one critcizes the CUD, they are told that they are not in the country so don't say a word. But the irony of it is that we are being told to critcize TPLF from far, donate money to the opposition from far. participate in rallies and meeting supporting the opposition. If we are asked to do all things possible but not cricitize the CUD what kind of crap is this. Our criciticzm is not to destroy the CUD but to strengthen them and to make them always think people first. As for some of you who just posted crap , I don't have time for it one even suggested come on another discussion forum and will debate you hard. I say to you I don't have time for you. If you have guts let's do it here. Why are you running to another site? At last ofcourse Asseb is Ethiopia and will be once TPLF is gone. There is no question about it.
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Postby ልጁነኝ1 » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:16 pm

የመጨረሻዋ ሐሣብህን በሚገባ እካፈላታለሁ::

ታዲያ ላመለክትህ የምወደው ታሁኑ ከክቡር አቶ: በላይ አባይ ጋር:: ከክቡር አቶ: አያሌው ማንደፍሮ ጋር:: አንድ ላይ እንድትማከሩ ብታድርግ የበለጠ ውጠታማ ያደርግኃል:: የኛ ሰው ነገ ወይም ቀስ ብለን እናበዛለን:: ታልሆነም ንቀን እናልፋለን:: ሻቢያ ወያኔ ሕወኃት ግን ያንን አያውቁትም የዛሬው ዛሬ ብቻ ነው መፈጸም ያለብት::

ስለ አፋርና አሰብ ቀይባህራችን ታሁኑ ነው ትግል መጀመር የሚኖርበት ለማለት ነው:: ወገኔ ከተፈለገ እያንዳንዱ ሞያተኛ ቢያስብ ኖሮ አገራቺን እነኝህ "ጉግ ማንጉጋዊያን እጅ ባልገባች ነበር" አሁንም ይጀምሩ የተጠየቁትን ኃሣብ::

የጠቀስኩልዎ ሰዎ አርጅተዋል:: አምባሳደር ዕምሩ ዘለቀም አርጅተው ወደ መቶ ዓመት ዕየተጠጉ ነው:: የሚያውቁትን ሰነዶቻቸውን እንዲያስተላልፉልዎ ይገባል:: የታሪክ ማስረጃዎች ስለ ያዝ?

በመጨረሻ አትዝከሩብን እርሶን የሚያህል ብዙ አገናዛቢ ምሁር ለምን በአማርኛ አይጽፉም ብለን መጠየቃቺን እንደማያስቀይምዎት አምናለሁ:: ነገ እመራዋለሁ የሚሉት ሠፊው ህዝብ ከልጆቹ በስተቀር እሱ እንግሊዝኛ መናገር ግዴታም የለበትምና:: ለዚያ ነው ታሁኑ ይለማመዱም ለማለት ነው:: ካጠፋንም ይቅርታዎን?

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expert wrote:I got a couple of replies some good and some are not worth replying especially some of you are pushing me to go into the detail life of Dr. Birhanu, which I don't want at this time. Let's concentrate on the main issue and that is the issue of our country Ethiopia. For the sake of some of you who have positively responded to me, I will reciprocate by not using the words Banda and traitor for the dr. but he is wrong and dead wrong. I still believe his personal ambition and goals have blinded his focus. We all know to satisfy his personal ego how he went behind the CUD and accepted the conditions which was presented to him by Tim Clarke of the EU to address the election fraud. The CUD then for not creating a big mess out of it put this matter under the rug. I don't believe you all don't know this. This is just the tip of the ice berg about the dr. and Co. messing things up. Yes up until the elections he did a good job. Unfortunetly non of you have responded why the dr. is lobbying hard for the CUD to enter parliament. 95% of the Ethiopian people told them no parliament. We all know the nature of TPLF and it is crystal clear what TPLF wants and are doing for the last 14 years. Some of you like Samcha would like the Ethiopian people to give TPLF 5 more year and be patient. My dear friend you are also dead wrong. The Ethiopian people have been killed , imprisoned, tortured and as a nation our mother Ethiopia have been suffering for the last 14 years by the TPLF cronies. Don't you think it is enough. By the way the Ethiopian people using the ballot box have said bye bye to TPLF. If the CUD is the people's leaders they should not give not even one of the peoples votes to TPLF. Guys let's take the latest negotiation, it is disgusting to see the CUD accepting to negotiate without any pre-conditions while TPLF forwarded pre-conditionsl like the cancellation of the work Stopage. Members and supporters are still being rounded up as of today while the so called negtiations are taking place. If we all recall TPLF was firing bullets while negotiating with the Derg. The least CUD should have done was to ask for all political prisioners release and then talk. Still TPLF would have accepted. They had no choice. We all know how TPLF is scared of the people. My main mission is to bring the likes of the dr. to the main stream and keep them fighting for the people and not mixing the fight with their personal agenda which have dilluted the situation. Yes the struggle is complicated no body said it is a piece of cake. Enetering the fake parliament is not only sucide for CUD but will be shameful act committed aganist the Ethiopian people by their own. At least we know TPLF is not Ethiopian. But to think that our own will decide to pro-long the pain and suffering of the Ethiopian people is realy sad. The other funny and in my opinion the stupidest thing I am hearing these days is that some people the likes of Papapaya is that since we are all in US or Europe we shouldn't give advise or express our thoughts concerning the political situation back home , especailly if any one critcizes the CUD, they are told that they are not in the country so don't say a word. But the irony of it is that we are being told to critcize TPLF from far, donate money to the opposition from far. participate in rallies and meeting supporting the opposition. If we are asked to do all things possible but not cricitize the CUD what kind of crap is this. Our criciticzm is not to destroy the CUD but to strengthen them and to make them always think people first. As for some of you who just posted crap , I don't have time for it one even suggested come on another discussion forum and will debate you hard. I say to you I don't have time for you. If you have guts let's do it here. Why are you running to another site? At last ofcourse Asseb is Ethiopia and will be once TPLF is gone. There is no question about it.
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Postby ዞብልየ » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:08 pm

Expert,,

ያቀረባካቸው ህሳቦች ትክክል ናቸው;; ፓርላማ ይግቡ አይግቡ በሚለው ላይ አይደለም ያለን የህሳብ ልዩነት;; የሰውን character መግደሉ ላይ ነው የማልስማማው;; ማንም ምን አለ character assassination ላይ አንሩጥ ነው የምለው;; ህሳቡን ተዋጋ ተቃወም, መረጃ አጥአቅሰህ አድማጮ ህን አሳምን እንጂ, የሰውን ታሪክ ጭቃ ላይ በመነስነስ አይሁን;;

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Postby Mekias » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:22 pm

Meles refuses to negotiate on contested ballots, CUD gives its delegates strict instructions



Oct 6, 2005

Ethiopian Review



Bereket Simon told the CUD and UEDF leaders yesterday that EPRDF is not willing to negotiate the demand by the CUD that reelection be held in the 299 contested electoral districts. The CUD leaders were upset and left the meeting without giving any statement to the press, but Bereket Simon, Dr Beyene Petros, and Dr Berhanu Nega, who injected himself into the negotiation, tried to give a positive spin to the negotiation process, while refusing to answer any question from the press. Today, the CUD council gave the delegates a strict instruction that if EPRDF refuses to discuss the 299 contested electoral constituencies, the negotiation must end.
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Postby ሳምቻው » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:10 pm

expert wrote: you are pushing me to go into the detail life of Dr. Birhanu, which I don't want at this time. .



ደግሞ ምን ልትጨምር ትችል ነበር ስለሳቸው ::the reverse is the truth . and the truth is sour እሺ ! አንተ እንኳን የኢኮኖሚክ ሳይንቲስቱን ልትተቸው ቀርቶ ጨርሶ ልታውቀው አትችልም .

ስማ Expert , ይህን ሳህን አጣቢ እጅህን ቃስ ብለህ ከ ብርሀኑ ትከሻ ላይ አውርደው !!!
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---- ኢሀአፓዎች አርፋችሁ ቁጭ በሉ !!

Postby Fesame » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:28 pm

---- ኢሀአፓዎች አርፋችሁ ቁጭ በሉ ! እስከ ዛሬ ያደረጋችሁ ይብቃል አሁን ለአዲሱ ትውልድ ተዎለት የፓለቲካውን ትግል

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Re: ---- ኢሀአፓዎች አርፋችሁ ቁጭ በሉ !!

Postby ሳምቻው » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:53 pm

የኢሀ'ፓን ስም ጠርተው ከበስተኋላህ "" ጃስስስ! "" ቢሉህ እኮ ስምህን በመቀመጫህ ተናግረህ መንገድ ልታሳብር ነው አይደል :: በዶሮ ማነቅያ ,በሀሙስ ገበያ ,በደጃች ውቤ እያደረክ እናትህ ጋ!! ...... !! ጠላትህ ይመለስ ልትመለስ ነው ..መችም !! ..

የሆነው ሆኖ ..እኔ የማንኛውም የፖለቲካ ድርጅት ተከታይ አይደለሁም :: ሀገሬን ግን ከምንም በላይ እወዳታለሁ :: እሞትላታለሁም :: ለሷ ሲሆን I love to die!
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dr. birhanu sell out

Postby expert » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:39 pm

The CUD executive committee have decided to withdraw from the negotiation with TPLF because of the refusal of the TPLF to have on the agenda the main issue of the 299 votes. the dr. earlier told his colleagues that he will get the TPLF at least reverse the new parliamentary rules and then they can join the parliament, but when he first told the executive committee about the list of the Agenda to be discussed, they were so mad and laughing at him. They immediately decided to withdraw which didn't give him the change to talk to his buddy Bereket or at least beg him to change the new rules. We know TPLF said no parliament, no Addis. The dr. couldn't sleep at the thought of not taking over addis. He today went again and tried to force a vote to enter parliament so that he can go ahead with business of becoming a Mayor. What a cheap dr. If not for Eng. Hailu's return which by the way will hopefully reverse and curtail the ideotic and shameful actions of the dr. and co. , will be present at the meeting on Saturday. The dr. is running aganist the Ethiopian people's interest and will. I hope he wakes up and just reverse course if not. We will see come Sunday morning who will betray the Ethiopian people. The funny thing they called on the people and asked them what they want and the people 95% said NO Parliament, we never voted for them , but the dr. still is lobbying hard for the CUD to betray the people. What a sell out. As I said earlier that's his mission all along and he has proved it beyond any shadow of a doubt. Like the blind TPLF , dr birhanu the one from within will face the Tsunami of the people soon. The Ethiopian people are watching and we will see tomorrow the list of who voted what in the CUD. Then the Ethiopian people will give their verdict.
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ለተቀማጭ ሠማዩ ቅርብ ነው:-

Postby ጣሰው ገ » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:55 pm

እንዴናችሁ???
ይቺን ጽሑፍ እስቲ እነ ሠማይ ቅርቦች አንበብው ለመረዳት ቢችሉ ከሚል ነው link ያደረኳትና ልብ ያላችሁን ወገኖች ብቻ ነው የሚመለከተው:: ደርግ አሥራ ሰባት ዓመት ወያኔ/ኢሕአዴግ አፍራሹና የወሮበላው ጥርቅም ዕድሜአቸውን ያስረዘሙት እርስ በራሳችን ስንጠላለዛ አይድለምን? አንባቢያን ፈረዱ::

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What's going on?
By Andualem Tefera
October 7, 2005
Ethiomedia, Ethiopian Review, Tensae Radio and Ethiopians in Diaspora Discussion Group are the means by which most of us keep our selves informed and share our views with each other. There is no but and no if about it. I will directly go to why I decided to write this article: the recent attack on the elected representatives of the people and on individual active members amongst us.
It is one thing to support the people, to encourage them, to be behind their elected officers. It is also our responsibility to point out what is a reasonably good path to follow. On the other hand we have to be careful of three dangerous paths we ourselves should not follow.
One is to think our selves as substitutes for the people. The people know whom they chose and they know why they chose them. Yes we do recognize the right of the people to vote for whomever they want to and we have accepted their choice. In fact we are standing behind the people to get their voices heard and their votes respected. This is a patriotic role and we are doing well. Beyond that, to say we elected you and you must do this or that, or to lecture them, coming from us afar is to put it mildly a bad taste. Yes the people at home do not have the means to get together and voice their opinion. Yes they are forbidden to get together and share opinions. Yes they are threatened to be sent to prison and be tortured if they demonstrate exercising their democratic right that is written even in the EPRDF constitution. Lo and behold that did not stop them from giving EPRDF the RED card when May 15, 2005, Election Day, came. The people communicate with their elected officers in their own way. The elected officers know what their strength is and where it comes from.
Second is to think our selves as substitute for the elected officers. Yes we have to share amongst ourselves what is good or what is not good. In addition it is prudent upon us to suggest our opinion on every issue. Further more we should try to communicate with the elected officers to suggest to them what we think is good. What is not right will be to replace them and dictate on every issue what the correct stand is. With this in mind to go ahead and say: “if this is not done then the elected officers are betrayers” and “if they do not want us to call them betrayers they should stop doing this and do that instead.” It will be an insult to them and out right interference on our part. They have the mandate to represent the people and decide. I do agree some of their decisions may not be what I want but I have to do my share by showing them the advantages of this stand as opposed to the other in time. I should not jump and say if they do not do this then they are this. I do not think the people elected officers who do not have brains to think and decide. They do know the situation better than anyone outside and they also know why they are elected. Again I am saying let us influence them and let us not threaten them.
Third is attacking one of our own. Each and every one of us has opinion. Each and every one of us strongly believes that her or his stand is the right stand. It is good and that is acceptable. There should also be room that someone’s different idea, stand, or angle could be better. With this at hand I would like to comment how we handle people with different ideas but who are in the same camp. Here the central point is that we are all in one camp and if we are in one camp how do we deal with differences. I read articles attacking Elias Kifle. It is OK for EPRDF people in their own media to do that; after all they are in that business. In our own medias, taking the side of the people, and then attacking active members by labeling them as servants of EPRDF is not acceptable. One can write that he wrote a wrong article or his stand on this issue or that one is not a good one, but to label him and then justify by pointing at one of his articles is not correct. When one attacks Elias one is not attacking one article or a stand he has on one issue, that person is going after Elias the person and his history, and we know his history. This is unacceptable. To attack anyone in our midst is not going to serve the purpose we say we are championing. We should differentiate the idea from the person and then address the issues as an issue. The reason EPRDF and its affiliates attack everyone and every idea in the people’s camp is because anything that is remotely associated with people does not sit well with them. It does not take much to know what kind of people belongs to that camp.
For those who know the current situation is it is EPRDF vs. Ethiopians; the votes being respected or stolen; and the focus should be this and nothing less and nothing more. Let us focus on this. Diversion is a tactic employed by the other camp and to fall for it only zaps our energy.
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AVOID "" STREET EXPERTS ""

Postby ሳምቻው » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:39 am

dear all ,

start off by avoiding these so called "experts" . they rarely have accurate information and listening to them can only confuse you , frustrate you or even worse misslead you .

relay only on information from credible sources .

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