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ኢትዮጵያውያን ማናቸው?

Postby ልዑል20 » Mon May 06, 2013 5:40 pm

አንዲት ወጣት ኢትዮጵያዊት ""ኢትዮጵያውያን ማን ናቸው?"" ወይም ""የኢትዮጵያዊነት ትርጉምን በኢንተርኔት ላይ እንዲያስረዷት የጠየቀችውን ጥያቄ: ሌላ ወጣት ኢትዮጵያዊት የመለሰችላት መልስ እጅጉን ስላረካኝ እዚህ ላይ አምጥቸዋለሁ::


Who Are Ethiopians?

"Aren't you from Ethiopia, that poor country?" Um Not Poor but:

The ONLY African nation never colonized because we defeated the Europeans...
First Africans to win gold in the Olympics
Only African nation with its own Alphabet
The country that practiced Christianity before Europeans and accepted Islam before the Middle East!
The first country that started with the flag colors that everyone rocks without even knowing what it means (Green, Yellow, Red) and the origin of Rastafarianism
One of the few countries in the world that is mentioned both in the Bible and Quran...over 50 times!
The country that is the origin of the coffee you drink
The country with so much culture and spirituality that you can't even comprehend!
Home to the earliest human sightings and human fossils on earth that date over millions of years old (Lucy, Ardi, etc.)

Yes!! Ethiopia: The Birth of the world. The cradle of humanity
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Postby ምክክር » Wed May 08, 2013 8:19 am

በጣም አመስግንሃለሁ-ልዑል::
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Postby እቴጌይት » Thu May 16, 2013 5:10 am

ልዑል20 wrote:አንዲት ወጣት ኢትዮጵያዊት ""ኢትዮጵያውያን ማን ናቸው?"" ወይም ""የኢትዮጵያዊነት ትርጉምን በኢንተርኔት ላይ እንዲያስረዷት የጠየቀችውን ጥያቄ: ሌላ ወጣት ኢትዮጵያዊት የመለሰችላት መልስ እጅጉን ስላረካኝ እዚህ ላይ አምጥቸዋለሁ::


Who Are Ethiopians?

"Aren't you from Ethiopia, that poor country?" Um Not Poor but:

The ONLY African nation never colonized because we defeated the Europeans...
First Africans to win gold in the Olympics
Only African nation with its own Alphabet
The country that practiced Christianity before Europeans and accepted Islam before the Middle East!
The first country that started with the flag colors that everyone rocks without even knowing what it means (Green, Yellow, Red) and the origin of Rastafarianism
One of the few countries in the world that is mentioned both in the Bible and Quran...over 50 times!
The country that is the origin of the coffee you drink
The country with so much culture and spirituality that you can't even comprehend!
Home to the earliest human sightings and human fossils on earth that date over millions of years old (Lucy, Ardi, etc.)

Yes!! Ethiopia: The Birth of the world. The cradle of humanity


ሠላም ልዑል:-

Every single eloquent reply by the writer evoked a contradictory sentiment in me. I do appreciate the intention of having an exclusively positive thought about our identity; past and presnet. Yet, our conspicuous problems are equally part of our identity. Ignoring the negative aspects of who we are distorts the reality of of our past and present. Hence, allow me to share my contradictory sentiments:-

The writer said
The ONLY African nation never colonized because we defeated the Europeans...

What does not being colonized signify if a nation still lives under the yoke of dictatorship its own offspring?


Only African nation with its own Alphabet


What meaning does having your own alphabet have if 65% of the adult population cannot even read and write that very Alphabet?

The country that practiced Christianity before Europeans and accepted Islam before the Middle East!

What value does adopting Christianity before Europe or accepting Islam before the Middle East have while allowing millions to live under inhumane and abhorrent conditions today? Isn't caring for the downtrodden and loving the poor one of the main tenets of Christinaity and Islam?

The first country that started with the flag colors that everyone rocks without even knowing what it means (Green, Yellow, Red)

What is the significance of being the first to have a flag if the very government of the same nation paint it as a symbol of oppression and call it a "piece of cloth'? What value does a flag has if the nation is not united under it?

The country that is the origin of the coffee you drink

What is the importance of being the origin of coffee if millions of the same nation cannot even afford a cup a day while a tiny few are making millions shipping it abroad?

The country with so much culture and spirituality that you can't even comprehend!

What is the value of having diverse culture if diversity is used as a source of ethnocentric divisions and hatred towards "the other" How can one celebrate spirituality of a nation where a tiny fraction livees in shoking exccess while the overwhelming majority is in or under poverty.

Home to the earliest human sightings and human fossils on earth that date over millions of years old

What is the significance of having an old fossil if a nation cannot alleviate the suffering of the ones that are alive today?

So, who really are Ethiopians? Does painting a glorified picture of our identity serve us well or is it a coping mechanism to survive the almost unbearable burden that we have today?

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Postby ልዑል20 » Thu May 16, 2013 6:22 pm

My friend..this how I see it:

What is happening now at the present time or the last 40 years is ofcourse part of our dark history. Every country has dark and bright side of their who they are. The fact remian that we cannt deny our past glory just because now we are poor and backward economically.

Without the past there is no future. And the future is in our hands. This generation is responsible for the success or failurity, so let's change it. Le's do our part.
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Postby ሓየት11 » Thu May 16, 2013 8:25 pm

ፓ ፓ ፓ ፓ ... እንደዚህ ያለው ፈላስማ ከቶ ከየት ይገኛል :D እቴጌ ሰላም ነው? ... ዘንድሮም ያው ነሽ አልተለወጥሽም? ... ጨለምተኝነት ያጠቃሻል::... ጫፍ ላይ ተንጠላጥለሽ ... ነገሮችን ማኮሰስ ይቀናሻል :roll: :: ... ምናለ ምናባችን ጠለቅ ቢል :D ... አልፎአልፎ ለለውጥ ያህል እንኳ ...

ሊቃውንት ሲኮምኩ ምን ይላሉ መሰለሽ ... the existence of something, in itself, is a meaning; :wink:

የራስ ፊደል መኖሩ በራሱ: ትርጉም ነው:: ትርጉሙን መረዳት ለሚችል ሰው:: ፊደሉን በሚያነበው የሰው ብዛት አይደለም ትርጉሙ የሚገለጸው:: ... የእቴጌይት አገርኛውንና የውጪውን ማንበብ: መጻፍና መረዳት ትርጉሙ ምንድነው ... ብለን እንጠይቅ እንዴ? :lol:

በቅኝ አለመገዛት በራሱ ትርጉም ነው:: ትርጉሙን መረዳት ለሚችል ሰው:: ዛሬ የሰለጠነ ስርዓት በማራመድ ወይም በማጣት አይደለም ትርጉሙ የሚገለጸው::

ሰንደቅ አላማችንም እንዲሁ:: መኖሩ በራሱ ትርጉም ነው:: መረዳት ለሚችል ሰው:: ትርጉሙን የተረዱት ወርሰዉታል:: አክብረውታል:: ከፍ አድርገው አውለብልበውታል:: ሰግደውለታል:: የላይፍ ስታይላቸው መገለጫ አድርገውታል:: ዛሬ ባለው ስርዓት ትርጉሙ የሚገለጸበት ምክንያት ነው የማይገባኝ:: ልክ እንዲህ እኮ ነበር ወይን የሚለው ድሮ ... የሰንደቅ አላማ ቀን ሳይሰይም በፊት :D ... ሆድ ባዶ ሆኖ ... ዳቦ በሌለበት ሁኔታ... ባንዲራ ባንዲራ ቢባል ምንድነው ትርጉሙ ... ሲባሉ አምነው የተቀበሉትን ነው ... ዛሬ ሆድ አደር የምንላቸው :D ... ለሆድሽ አድረሻል ማለት ባይቻል እንኳ ... የነሱን ባህሪ ግን ወስደሻል:: ... ባጭሩ ... ክብር በሆድ አይገለጸም ... ቁንጣን ሊተካው የማይችል ሰፊ ትርጉም ነው ያለው:: ...

ሌላውንም እንዲህ እያልኩ መቀጠል እችላለሁ ... ግን ይበቃል ... ዋናው ነገር ጨልምተኛና ቁንጽል አትሁኚ ለማለት ነው:: ነገሮችን... በዛሬ ሚዛን ብቻ እየተመለከትሽ ... ትርጉም የለሽና ዋጋ ቢስ አታድርጊያቸው::

ሊቃውንት ... ከነገሮቹ ህልውና ተነስተው ... ተንትነው አስተንትነው ... ለዛሬ ውድቀት መፍትሄ የሚያፈላልጉበት ... ምንጭ በመሆኑ ... ትርጉሙን በቁንጽል መረዳቶ አያደብዝዙት ለማለት ያክል ነው::

ያቃኔሌ :lol:

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What does not being colonized signify if a nation still lives under the yoke of dictatorship its own offspring?


Only African nation with its own Alphabet


What meaning does having your own alphabet have if 65% of the adult population cannot even read and write that very Alphabet?

The country that practiced Christianity before Europeans and accepted Islam before the Middle East!

What value does adopting Christianity before Europe or accepting Islam before the Middle East have while allowing millions to live under inhumane and abhorrent conditions today? Isn't caring for the downtrodden and loving the poor one of the main tenets of Christinaity and Islam?

The first country that started with the flag colors that everyone rocks without even knowing what it means (Green, Yellow, Red)

What is the significance of being the first to have a flag if the very government of the same nation paint it as a symbol of oppression and call it a "piece of cloth'? What value does a flag has if the nation is not united under it?

The country that is the origin of the coffee you drink

What is the importance of being the origin of coffee if millions of the same nation cannot even afford a cup a day while a tiny few are making millions shipping it abroad?

The country with so much culture and spirituality that you can't even comprehend!

What is the value of having diverse culture if diversity is used as a source of ethnocentric divisions and hatred towards "the other" How can one celebrate spirituality of a nation where a tiny fraction livees in shoking exccess while the overwhelming majority is in or under poverty.

Home to the earliest human sightings and human fossils on earth that date over millions of years old

What is the significance of having an old fossil if a nation cannot alleviate the suffering of the ones that are alive today?

So, who really are Ethiopians? Does painting a glorified picture of our identity serve us well or is it a coping mechanism to survive the almost unbearable burden that we have today?

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Postby እቴጌይት » Fri May 17, 2013 12:50 am

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ስለእኛነታችን ስናስብ የቀድሞም ሆነ የአሁን መልካሙ እኛነታችንን ቦታ አንስጠው አላልኩም:: የወደቀ እኛነታችንን እንዳለ መዝለል ግን ስለራሳችን የተዛባ ግንዛቤ መስጠት ብቻ ሳይሆን ውድቀታችንን ራሱ በትክክል መረዳት የማንችል ባዶ ኩሩዎች ያደርገናል ነው ነጥቤ!.....
ለዛሬ ውድቀት መፍትሄ ለማግኘት እኮ የወደቀም ሆነ የተነሳ እኛነታችንን በሁለተናው መረዳት ግድ ይላል::

ፊደል ስላለኝ ስኮራ ማንበብ አልመቻሌን ከዘለልኩት.....ባንዲራ ከሰው በፊት ስላለኝ ቀና ስል...በባንዲራ ስር አንድነት መፍጠር አለመቻሌን ካላሰብኩት....ክርስትናን እና እስልምናን ከብዙዎች ቀድሜ በመቀበሌ ስደሰት...የክርስትና እና የእስልምና ትምህርትን በመተግበር ግን ከብዙው የተጎተትኩ መሆኔን ካላየሁት ወዘተ....ስለራሴ የተንሸዋረረ ግንዛቤ ያለኝ ለችግሬም ዛሬ መፍትሄ ለማግኘት የሚሳነኝ እሆናለሁኝ!

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Postby ዲጎኔ » Fri May 17, 2013 3:16 am

ሰላም ለሁላችን ይሁን
ጦቢያዊያን ማን ናቸው???? በጣም ጥሩ ጥያቄና ተገቢ መልሶችና የግምገማ አስተያየቶች ናቸው::እነሆ የአንድ ሀገር ነዋሪዎች ከሚገለጹባቸው ማብራሪያዎች ሚዲያ መዝገበቃላትና ሌሎች ህዝቦች ናቸው::የልጆቻችን self esteem ለራስ ያለ ምልከታ በጥሩ ሁኔታ ለመጠበቅ በጎ ጎኖች ቢነገራቸው መልካም ነው:: ነገር ግን ይህ ግብዘነት ከንቱ ኩራት ትእቢት ጥቁር አደለንምና ባርነት አልነበረም ውሸት እጅግ የሰለቸኝ ነው::ውድቀታችን በረሀብ በርስ በርስ እልቂት በምቀኘት መታወቃችን ሳይካድ በታሪክ ቀዳሚነታችን የታላቁ የአለም ረጅም ወንዝ አባይ መፈጠሪያ የሰው ዘር መብቀያ ብቸኛው አፍሪአኪ ስነጽሁፍ መሆናችን ይወሳ::ሁሉም በአግባቡና ይሁን selef hate ራስን መጥላት ሆነ hypocracy ግብዝነቱ ከእኛ ይራቅ::
ታላቁ መጽሀፍ ላይ ታላቁ ጌታ ምን ብሏል?? ሰዎች ስለእኔ ምን ይላሉ? ሌሎች ህዝቦች ስለጦቢያ ምን ይላሉ????? ልብ ያለው ልብ ይበለው::
ዲጎኔ ሞረቴ ከጦቢያ ኩሽቲክ ሴሜቲክ ናይሎቲክ ህዝቦች በመውለዱ ፈጣሪን የሚያመስግን

እቴጌይት wrote:
ልዑል20 wrote:አንዲት ወጣት ኢትዮጵያዊት ""ኢትዮጵያውያን ማን ናቸው?"" ወይም ""የኢትዮጵያዊነት ትርጉምን በኢንተርኔት ላይ እንዲያስረዷት የጠየቀችውን ጥያቄ: ሌላ ወጣት ኢትዮጵያዊት የመለሰችላት መልስ እጅጉን ስላረካኝ እዚህ ላይ አምጥቸዋለሁ::
Who Are Ethiopians?
"Aren't you from Ethiopia, that poor country?" Um Not Poor but:

The ONLY African nation never colonized because we defeated the Europeans...
First Africans to win gold in the Olympics
Only African nation with its own Alphabet
The country that practiced Christianity before Europeans and accepted Islam before the Middle East!
The first country that started with the flag colors that everyone rocks without even knowing what it means (Green, Yellow, Red) and the origin of Rastafarianism
One of the few countries in the world that is mentioned both in the Bible and Quran...over 50 times!
The country that is the origin of the coffee you drink
The country with so much culture and spirituality that you can't even comprehend!
Home to the earliest human sightings and human fossils on earth that date over millions of years old (Lucy, Ardi, etc.)

Yes!! Ethiopia: The Birth of the world. The cradle of humanity


ሠላም ልዑል:-

Every single eloquent reply by the writer evoked a contradictory sentiment in me. I do appreciate the intention of having an exclusively positive thought about our identity; past and presnet. Yet, our conspicuous problems are equally part of our identity. Ignoring the negative aspects of who we are distorts the reality of of our past and present. Hence, allow me to share my contradictory sentiments:-

The writer said
The ONLY African nation never colonized because we defeated the Europeans...

What does not being colonized signify if a nation still lives under the yoke of dictatorship its own offspring?


Only African nation with its own Alphabet


What meaning does having your own alphabet have if 65% of the adult population cannot even read and write that very Alphabet?

The country that practiced Christianity before Europeans and accepted Islam before the Middle East!

What value does adopting Christianity before Europe or accepting Islam before the Middle East have while allowing millions to live under inhumane and abhorrent conditions today? Isn't caring for the downtrodden and loving the poor one of the main tenets of Christinaity and Islam?

The first country that started with the flag colors that everyone rocks without even knowing what it means (Green, Yellow, Red)

What is the significance of being the first to have a flag if the very government of the same nation paint it as a symbol of oppression and call it a "piece of cloth'? What value does a flag has if the nation is not united under it?

The country that is the origin of the coffee you drink

What is the importance of being the origin of coffee if millions of the same nation cannot even afford a cup a day while a tiny few are making millions shipping it abroad?

The country with so much culture and spirituality that you can't even comprehend!

What is the value of having diverse culture if diversity is used as a source of ethnocentric divisions and hatred towards "the other" How can one celebrate spirituality of a nation where a tiny fraction livees in shoking exccess while the overwhelming majority is in or under poverty.

Home to the earliest human sightings and human fossils on earth that date over millions of years old

What is the significance of having an old fossil if a nation cannot alleviate the suffering of the ones that are alive today?

So, who really are Ethiopians? Does painting a glorified picture of our identity serve us well or is it a coping mechanism to survive the almost unbearable burden that we have today?

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Postby ሓየት11 » Fri May 17, 2013 1:42 pm

እቴዋ ናፍሴ :D
መልስሽን እኮ በልዑል አስታከሽ አደረስሽልኝ ... የልዑልና የኔ ነጥብ ይታይና ... ያንቺ መልስ ደግሞ ይታይና ... ማንን አድሬስ ለማድረግ ወደ አማርኛ እንደተመለስሽም ይታይና :lol: ...

ለማንኛውም ዋናው ነጥብ ... ጸለምተኛ አትሁኚ ነው:: ... ነገሮች ህልውናቸው ብቻ በቂ ትርጉም ይሰጣልና... ትርጉማቸውን ለማኮሰስ ... በዛሬ መነጽር ብቻ አትይው ... ነው የተባልሽው::... ካንቺ መጻፍና ማንበብ መቻል በላይ ... የሆሄያቱ መኖር ... በብዙ እጥፍ ትርጉም ይሰጣል:: ...ዛሬ የሚያነበው የህ/ሰብ ክፍል ጥቂት ነው ተብሎ ... ትርጉሙና ቫልዩው ... እንደሞጋ ጫማችን :D... ሊዘቅጥ አይችልም:: ይህን ስለተባልሽ ከተራነት መደብሽኝ :lol:

በሊቅነታችን ሆነን :lol: ስንታዘብንሽ ታድያ ... ኢትዮጵያዊው በባንዴራው... በፊደሎቹ መኖር... ቅኝ ባለመገዛቱ ወዘተ ... ለራሱ የሰጠውን ክብር ... ጥያቄ ውስጥ ከተሽ ... ለራስሽ የምትሰጪውን ያልተሸራረፈ ክብር ስታሳይ ... ይበል ፍልስፍና ያሰኘናል :lol: ይቺ ናት እኮ የጽንፈኛ ግለሰባዊነት መገለጫ :D ... ማህበረሰቡ በባዶ ነው የሚኮራው እያላችሁ ... የት (የኢንጉዋን የት ነው የተጠቀምኩትኝ :D ) ... ለራሳችሁ ያላችሁን ክብር ስትገልጹ ደግሞ ... "ተራ ሰው አይመጥነንም" ... :lol: ... አፍ የለኝም :D ይባላል እኮ:: ... እንጂ ያውም እኛን ከመሰለ ትሁት :D ደቂቀ-ሊቃውንት ... ትንሽና ትልቅ ... ሰውና ከብት... ወያኔና ተቃዋሚ ... ወዘተ ... ሳንል ... ከሁሉም ጋር እንደአመጣጡ መግባባት ከምንችለው ሽሜ :lol: ጋር በማውራትሽ ብቻ... ፈጣሪሽን ነበር (ካለሽ ማለት ነው) ማመስገን የሚገባሽ ... :wink:

በሌላ የምላስ ወለምታሽ እስክንገናኝ ደግሞ ሰላም ብያለሁ::

እቴጌይት wrote: ሓየት
ለኩራታችን ምንጭ ሆነው የሚጠቀሱት ጉዳዮች : በተራነት ከሚመጥኑህ ጋር መልካም አታካራ ይሁንልህ ካልኩህ ረጅም ጊዜ ሆነው እኮ!
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Postby ልዑል20 » Fri May 17, 2013 2:19 pm

እቴጌይት wrote:ወንድም ልዑል
ስለእኛነታችን ስናስብ የቀድሞም ሆነ የአሁን መልካሙ እኛነታችንን ቦታ አንስጠው አላልኩም:: የወደቀ እኛነታችንን እንዳለ መዝለል ግን ስለራሳችን የተዛባ ግንዛቤ መስጠት ብቻ ሳይሆን ውድቀታችንን ራሱ በትክክል መረዳት የማንችል ባዶ ኩሩዎች ያደርገናል ነው ነጥቤ!.....
ለዛሬ ውድቀት መፍትሄ ለማግኘት እኮ የወደቀም ሆነ የተነሳ እኛነታችንን በሁለተናው መረዳት ግድ ይላል::

ፊደል ስላለኝ ስኮራ ማንበብ አልመቻሌን ከዘለልኩት.....ባንዲራ ከሰው በፊት ስላለኝ ቀና ስል...በባንዲራ ስር አንድነት መፍጠር አለመቻሌን ካላሰብኩት....ክርስትናን እና እስልምናን ከብዙዎች ቀድሜ በመቀበሌ ስደሰት...የክርስትና እና የእስልምና ትምህርትን በመተግበር ግን ከብዙው የተጎተትኩ መሆኔን ካላየሁት ወዘተ....ስለራሴ የተንሸዋረረ ግንዛቤ ያለኝ ለችግሬም ዛሬ መፍትሄ ለማግኘት የሚሳነኝ እሆናለሁኝ!

ሓየት
ለኩራታችን ምንጭ ሆነው የሚጠቀሱት ጉዳዮች : በተራነት ከሚመጥኑህ ጋር መልካም አታካራ ይሁንልህ ካልኩህ ረጅም ጊዜ ሆነው እኮ!



እህት እቴጌይት...

በብዙ መልኩ ከቅድሙ አሁን የተግባባን ይመስለኛል:: ልጨምር የምፈልገው ቢኖር የአሁኑ ውድቀታችን ሊያስቆጨን ሊያንገበግበን ሊያናድደን ሊያሳፍረን ይገባል:: ቀደም ሲባል የጠቀስናቸው ሊያኮሩን የሚገቡት ታሪኮቻችንና የታሪክ አሻራዎቻችን በሙሉ ከአሁኑ ውድቀታችን ጋር እያነጻጸርን እራሳችንን ብንረግም ና ብናወዳድቅ ለኛም ሆነ ለአገሪቱ አይበጅም:: የሚበጀው የትውልድ ድርሻንን በቅንነት መወጣት ነው::

ሌላው የምለው ቢኖር... ጽሁፉን ያወጣችው በግምት 18 አመት የሆነች ውጭ ተወልዳ ያደገች ኢትዮጵያዊት ናት:: ከነርሱም ብዙ መማር ያለብን ይመስለኛል:: በጉዳዮች አያያዝ ላይ ብዙ የሚበልጡን ይመስለኛል::

በቸር ያቆየን::
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