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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

እናንተ የምትገርሙ የምድር ጉዶች ናችሁ :: አንዳንዶቻችሁ ወያኔ ናችሁ እንዳትባሉ ወያኔን አምርራችሁ የምትቃወሙ ናችሁ ደግሞም ወያኔ አይደላችሁም እንዳንል የወያኔን ስራ ከልባችሁ ተግታችሁ ስትሰሩ ትታያላችሁ ::
እኔን ግራ የገባኝ ነገር ነገራችሁ ዝም ብሎ መቃወም ብቻ ነው ወይስ እየለያችሁ መታገልን ማስተዋሉ ተወስዶባችሀል :: በእርግጠኝነት አንዱ የነገደ ጎበዜን መጽሐፍ እየተቸ ስጽፍ በእርግጥ ወያኔ መሆን አለበት :: ጽሑፉን አንብበህ ከሆነ ስለ ምርጫ በቂ የሆነ መረጃ የሰጠ ሰው ነው ::
አንዳንዶቻችሁ ደግሞ ኢሀፓ ኢሀፓ ትሸታላችሁ እሱም ላይ ከኢሀፓ ጋር ህብረት ውስጥ በአንድ ሳንባ ይተነፍሱ ነበር እንግዲህ ኢሀፓ በመከፈሉ አንደኛው ግሩፕ ይሆናል አሁን የጥንት የጡዋቱን እያነሱ የሰውን ስም ጥላሸት የሚቀቡት :: በእውነት ገርማችሁኝ ነው ይህ ምን የሚሉት ቅሌት ነው ?
አሁን የሰዉየውን ስም ከማጉደፍ ብትቆጠቡ ይሻላል :: ይህ ወያኔንም አይጠቅምም እንኳንስ ተቃዋሚውን ሊጠቅም ቀርቶ ስለዚህ ዋርካን / እንደገባች ውሻ ሁሉም ያገኘውን ሊወረውርበት አይገባም :: አምጥቶ የለጠፈውም ሰው ቢሆን የለጠፈበት መንፈሱ ሰውዬውን ሊያሰድብ እንደሆነ በደንብ ይታወቅበታል ::
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በይሉል

ውሃ አጠጪ


Joined: 16 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BRUKYIRGA እንደጻፈ(ች)ው:
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.............[color=red]ለእልቂቱ ትልቅ አስተዋጾ አድርጎል [/color ..........


ከላይ የተጠቀሱት ቀዋሚ እና ዘላለማዊ የኢትዮጵያ አስከፊ ገጽታወች ናቸው .....ሆነውም ይኖራሉ .

የድርጅቱ /መኢሶን / አስተዋጾ በተሳታፊነት የሚፈረጅ ብቻ ሳይሆን የመሀንዲስነት እና የቀያሽነት ነው .


እና ነገሩን ""አስተዋጽኦ "" በሚል አንኩዋሰን አንመልከተው .
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negoageyo

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Joined: 10 Feb 2005
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Location: australia

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="በይሉል "][quote="BRUKYIRGA"]............................................................

.............[color=red]ለእልቂቱ ትልቅ አስተዋጾ አድርጎል [/color ..........[/quote]

ከላይ የተጠቀሱት ቀዋሚ እና ዘላለማዊ የኢትዮጵያ አስከፊ ገጽታወች ናቸው .....ሆነውም ይኖራሉ .

የድርጅቱ /መኢሶን / አስተዋጾ በተሳታፊነት የሚፈረጅ ብቻ ሳይሆን የመሀንዲስነት እና የቀያሽነት ነው .


እና ነገሩን ""አስተዋጽኦ "" በሚል አንኩዋሰን አንመልከተው .[/quote]


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ልክ ብለሃል ....... / ነገደ ጎበዜ አንደኛው ካምፕ ላይ ሆኖ ላደረሰው ያደረሰው በደል ቀላል እንዳልሆነው ሁሉ የኢህአፓ አመራር አካላትም በነጭ ሽብር ለቀዘፉዋቸው ዜጎች ተጠያቂ መሆናችውን ሊገነዘቡትም ይገባል :: በዚያን ወቅት በፖለቲካው አለም ተስልፎ የነበረ ድርጅት ከደሙ ንፁህ ነኝ የሚል ቢኖር የምፀት ቃል ነው የሚሆነው :: ጥፋታቸው ግን ይለያያል ::
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Kaleb*

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Joined: 25 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

እኔም ሰለ ነገደ በትክክል የሚያውቅ ሰው ይኖራል ብዬ እዚ መድረክ ተመላልሼ ነበር : ግን የሚያሳዘነው የተሳተፉት ሁሉ አንድ አይነት ነጋቲቭ የሆነና ምንም የማያሳምን ነገር ነው የሚያቀርቡት ::
አውን የምትሉት እውነት ከሆነ : ነገደ ሰው ያስጨፈጨፈ ከሆነ ለምን በሰላም ይኖራል አሁን ካለ ፕሮቴክሽን ? ህብረትስ ፓርቲ ለምን እሱን ጨምረው ትግሉን ያበላሹታል ? እንኮን አደለም ነገደ በፓርቲ መሪነት ከደርግ ጋር ሆኖ 'ብዙ ደም ያለበት ', ቀልቤሳ ነገዎ በቀበሌ መሪነት ለሰራት ወንጀል እየከፈለ ነው ::

እንደውም እኔ የማውቀው ነገደ በሚኖርበት አውሮፓ የተከበረና በኮሙኒቲውም ነቁ ተሳታፊ , ምንም ሳይሽሽግ የሚኖር : ለሀገሩና ለትውልድ ሁልጊዜም ሀላፊነት የሚሰማው ሽማግሌ ነው :

controversial የሆኑትን ነገሮች ካላበቂ ማስረጃ ማምጣት ከጥቅሙ ጉዳቱ ያመዘናል :: ለማንኛውም አሮጌና ያልታደለ ትውልድ ለኢትዮፕያ አልበጃትም : Smile i am not contadicting.
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ሚስተር -x

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ነገደ ጎበዜ ተራ የፖለቲካ ተሳታፊ ሳይሆን በኢትዮጵያ አብዮት የትግል መስክ ላይ መሀንዲስ ሆነው ከፊት ከተሰለፉት የደርግ ዘመን ታጋዮች መሀል ነው :: ከወቅቱ አብዮተኞች ነገደን ልዩ የሚያደርገው ነገር ቢኖር የሚያደርገውን ሁሉ አስቦ የሚሰራና የራሱን ሕይወት ከድንገተኛ ቅስፈት የሚያተርፍ እንዲሁም መውጫዉን /ማምለጫዉን ሳያዘጋጅ በር የማይከፍት ሰው መሆኑ ነው :: ይህ ብልጠቱ ከሰናይ ልኬ ብልጠት ጋር ሲመዛዘን ሰናይን የዋህ ያስመስለዋል :: በሀገራችን ካሉና ከነበሩ አብዮተኞች ቅስፈትን በማምለጥ ... ወይም በምትካቸው ምስ ወይም ጪዳ በመመተካት ሞትን የማታለል ችሎታን በዉል ካሳዪት መሀል (ከቀድሞዎቹ ) መንግስቱ ሓይለማርያምና ነገደ ጎበዜ ምሳሌ ሲሆኑ ካሁኖቹ ደግሞ መለስ ዘናዊን ማየት ይቻላል ::

ነገደ በአለም አቀፍ የፖለቲካ እንቅስቃሴና በፖለቲከኞች ጨዋታ እውቀት የተካነ ነው :: ከዚህም የተነሳ ከብዙ የአገራት መሪዎችና ቁልፍ የፖለቲካ ተዋንያን ጋር የቀረበ ትውውቅን ለበጎ ቀን በነገ ባንክ ያስቀመጠ ምሁር ነው :: ታዲያ ጥያቄዬ ...የትኛው የነገደ ጎበዜ መልክ በኢትዮጵያ ልጆች አእምሮ እንደሰረጸና ታሪክ እንዴት ሊያየው እንደሚገባ ለማወቅ ነበር ::

የነገደን የቀይ ሽብር አባትነትንና በህዝብ ደህንነት ጥላ ስር የተሰራዉን ለመግለጥ አልነበረም -- ያብዛኛው ኢትዮጵያዊ እውቀት ስለመሰለኝ ... ጥያቄዬ ምናልባት በጎ አስተዋጻኦ ኖሮት እኔ ለዛ እውቀት ባዳ ሆኘ እንዳልሆን እውቀት ለመካፈል ነበር ::

ስለክፉውማ የተስፋዬ መኮንንን "ይድረስ ለባለታሪኩ " (ከገጽ 160-330) የሚለዉን መጽሀፍ ማንበብ በቂ ዪሆናል ብዬ እገምታለሁ :: አሁንም በጎ ካለ ለመስማት በትግስት ጠብቃለሁ )


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በደዊ

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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post አድርግዋለው ያሉክት የሚክትለው ነው :: ጽሁፉ እረጅም ስለሆነ ሙሉን ከስር አስቀምጨዋለው ::ነገር ግን
ይህንን መልስ እንድሰጥ ያነሳሳኝ
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ነገደ መጥቶ መሞቱን ለማረጋገጥ ሬሳውን በእግሩ ሲመታው ታየ ያሉኝን ነው
የሚለውን አባባል ከነገደ ባህሬ ጋር ታነጻጽሩ ዘንድ ለብቻው ከዚህ በታች [/quote]
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That is the version told us by Kiflu. Here is what Dr. Negede Gobezie tells us about the affair. Negede was sent by Shaleqa Getachew Shibeshi , head of Derg security, to Kidane Building to assure if the dead person was indeed Tesfaye. Upon arriving he will meet the zonal qebele head, Zerihun Tekle also of Meison He will also find among other people rounded up by qebele Adanch Fesshaye sitting there among other people. The reader will remember who Adanech Fesshaye is. She is the so called friend wife etc. of Kiflu Tadesse who together with him is suspected of being in the service of the CIA since their student days in Moscow. She was there as all in the building were kept under guard by the qebele. Although she was shaken and vividly alarmed at being discovered there by Negede, Negede will pass her as if unnoticed and leave her in peace to live to this date. She will leave the building having shown, as usual, a fake identity. Now the question is What is Adanech doing at Kidane Building? Seeking safety?


ሙሉ ጥናቱ
FEW FACTS ABOUT THE EPRP


CASE VI, LAST CASE


WHO ARRANGED THE KILLING OF TESFAYE DEBESAY EPRP SECRETARY GENERAL - THE EPRP ITSELF?


URBAN GUERRILLA OR A TERRORIST KILLING BUSINESS, A KILLING MISSION
: RED TERROR -WHITE TERROR

What is an urban guerrilla? What is the justification for it? Who is the enemy and why? What are the pre-arranged preparations for its actuation? For final retreat and escape? Where are the comparative studies on countering forces and guerrilla forces? What are the essential qualifications of the leaders ? Who are the guerrilla fighters What kind of training do they need military, political, etc? Do you have a popular base? Is the target to capture the city? If not what is the ultimate target?

The general theoretical framework is that you first develop the rural guerrilla warfare with a massive peasant popular base, use the country side to encircle the cities and capture them. You dont start with cities as in conventional warfare and then capture the countryside.. As one writer says, the strategy of guerrilla warfare proceeds in the other direction. The reasons are obvious Cities and towns are better protected and Moore easily defendedThe insurgents are too few and to weak to think of capturing a city…” (Proceedings of an international conference on Vietnam, ed. Sinarayan Ray,(New York, London, 1966), article by A.B Shan. Communist Insurgency and Guerrilla Warfare) As Mao Tse Tung puts it when the rural area is captured through a protracted guerrilla warfare,
The cities will fall in their own time like rotten fruits from the tree. This is to show that you dont start an urban guerrilla warfare in isolation and artificially by a voluntarist decision and without a supporting rural guerrilla victory. In a very striking manner the north American chapter of EPRP had taken a critical position echoing the views of Mao Tse tung and suggesting that the EPRP should follow the experiences of China and Vietnam.

As Ethiopia is a semi-feudal semi-colonial nation its revolutionary strategy should be to encircle the cities through the use of advancing victorious forces in rural Ethiopia.

Further the same American chapter of the EPRP had rightly considered that the proclamation nationalising rural land was not an answer to the call of land to the tiller but land to the state which is a different mater and detrimental to the Ethiopian peasants. However the EPRP leadership in Addis Ababa whose concern was not a political revolution in Ethiopia but the dismemberment of the state and a killing mission, did not take heed of that suggestion. Indeed the EPRP polit bureau was of the opinion that :

When we consider the situation in Addis Ababa, we see popular insurrectional situation. And there is not contradiction between such a situation and a peoples war. In the protracted guerrilla warfare one can start popular insurrection in cities as well as in the country side.

A very strange conclusion based on a false premise (Kiflu, III p.248-49).

How was the decision by the EPRP CC to start a guerrilla warfare reached? The EPRP problem in Addis Ababa starts with the establishment of the office for mass Organisational Affairs. As the name says it was an office which the Derg has established after its turn to the left, to organise, with the help of leftist organisations, or those who called themselves leftist, to organise the peasants, workers, the youth, women the entire body of civil society - and above all urban dwellers who were organised into qebele or village associations, the so called weyeyet kebeb discussion forums in every office, etc. arm them with whatever ideological guidelines it had and use them as its power base. The leftist organisations, on their part, mainly Meison, believed that was an opportunity to organise the masses and snatch power from the military in order to advance its nations, and nationalities disruptive option. The Mass Organisational Office was a potent political instrument of totalitarian rule and control of every citizen right up to his bed room, and for the total control and complete annihilation of civil society, common in all those so called communist or socialist states of those days.. The EPRP requested by the Derg had refused to join it and describing the Derg as a Fascist junta and Meison as an opportunist lackey , and demanding in its place a peoples government. This put at logger heads the Derg and Meison, and in particular the Mass Organisational Office on one side and the EPRP on the other. To complicate the situation the EPRP and the CIA have been able to infiltrate the Derg and recruit some of Menghistus most prominent colleagues in the Derg like Shaleqa Sissay Habte who will soon be eliminated by Menghistu, and in particular Lieutenant Alemayhu Haile, and specially Major Moges Wolde Mikael. We may also mention General Teferi Benti and his children (in particular his son Aine Eshet Teferi) who were siding with the EPRP. Such a powerful support is likely to make you feel you are at the door-step of power. Still more important was EPRPs rival mass organisational drive for the control of peasants, and in particular urban industrial workers, the youth, women etc.. The competition was in full gear in every care with organisational infiltration in all sector playing the rest. Verbal recriminations through under ground and over ground papers were proliferating .

Already starting with the issue of collaboration with the Derg, Berhane Mesqel had started to show some alarming differences with the rest of the C:C. It must be said tht Berhane Mesqel felt uncomfortable ever since his dictatorial treatment of the Tesfaye mekonnen group forcing them to go into the arms of the Derg, as well as complete inaction at Assimba was criticised. He was eventually removed from Assimba and transferred to Addis Ababa. But most important of all he was removed from his function as secretary General of EPRP (elected at the founding conference in April 1972) to which he held so much to become an ordinary CC member. In fact because of the dictatorial tendencies during the tenure of office of Berhane Mesqel, the office was altogether abolished and maintained only as a formal office without power. Power and decision making becomes collective. (Kiflu Tadesse, I, p.361-.362) and Tesfaye Debesay will be elected as the new Secretary General (August 1975) .(Kiflu , I, p.374) A post which he will keep until his death in March 1977.. from the date of his involuntary deposition as secretary general Berhane Mesqel was more or less isolated in the C.C. His only company was Getachew Maru with whom they will come up with novel proposals contrary to the majority view. The first of these was the idea of forming a front with the Derg or with Meison proposed by the two around march 1976.(Kiflu, II, p.127) . The idea had even appeared in an article in Addis Zemen. (op.cit)., More important was At the CC in August 1976, Berhane Mesqel and Getachew Maru in the CC had made their opposition clear to the idea of a terrorist killing in the name of urban guerrilla war fare, and in Addis Ababa and other cities, and in particular the terrorist act to kill Menghistu Haile Mariam. : (p.127, 289)

Berhane Mesqel argued bitterly that killing Shaleqa Menghistu Haile Marima is a putschist act of, it is a coup d’é tat, and not a revolutionary act which we have se to achieve. He argued that it was a terrorist act. The Derg and their supporters (Meison) are waging a political struggle and we should challenge them in that. Other members of the Central Committee argues that it was indispensable to eliminate Menghistu in order to advance the revolution. However the CC meeting approved with a slight majority the decision to punish by death those who were killing EPRP members in accordance with the decision with the polit-bureau. Berhane Mesqel was emboldened by the high number of supporters which he did not expect.

Berhane Mesqel implored them not to kill Meison leaders in the Mass organisational Office, and had even gone further the practical actuation of the project by the killers.(Kiflu, II, 289, 290, 291).

Although the so-called urban guerrilla was said to be conducted in collaboration with the guerrilla headquarters in Assimba, there was in practice hardly any contact. It was mainly the work of the CC although the EPRP military commission is mentioned once in a while. The operations Committee which supervised the whole urban offensive had als a majior role. Each major city was divided in zones which were then federated in each city under once central command (Beine Qetena). EPRP started rearming and training its defence squad divided in small ahad or units with 25 to 30 members under a commander and a political commissar., which until then had remained inactive. They were given psychological and spiritual boosting up, what ever that meant , as well training in military discipline (Kiflu, II, p.283). All CC members were armed

The over all operation was supervised and controlled by Kiflu Tadesse. He was the professional killer of the terrorist killing operation act which was launched in September 1976. He was responsible for co-ordinating all the zones and inter-zones in particular of Addis Ababa . He was responsible for approving target indicated and to give them orders for their execution.

The first major target of EPRP killing mission was Colonel Menghistu Haile Mariam. Who has been followed since August 1976 The final assassination attempt was made on Meskerem 13, 1976, in which Menghistu escaped wounded. The next easy target was the Meison leader and member of the Mass Organisational Office Fikre Merid. whom EPRP shot and killed while he was waiting at his wifes office to pick her up. According to Tesfaye Mekonnen the killer was Seyum Kebede a member of Kiflus assassination squad. Seyum Kebede was a member of the Union of Workers of the National Theatre.Another member of the killing squad was Yetbarek Hezqeyas , brother of Tselote Hezqeyas.( Kiflu, II, p.262 ). Although I have no intention of going into Meison-EPRP affairs , Dr. Fikre Merid (Kiflu who may never have known him calls him Ato) was my best friend. We have spent years and memorable days both at Addis Ababa University and in France at the Univeristy of Aix-Marseille where he had studied law and graduated brilliantly. He is not a person to get involved in intricate businesses out of which he had no way of getting out. And yet that was precisely what happened to him. I remember vividly meeting him at the Post Office in Addis Ababa a few weeks before his death telling me rather bitterly esat west new yalehut -I live in the midst of hot fire. He even asked me to check if there could be a quiet way of slipping away through a further studies scholarship in France., and we had been following up the case when I had news of his being killed by the EPRP. I was bitterly sad. He had left two babies who I understand are now university graduates in Canada. I wish them the best .We are waiting for justice, also on their account. Kiflu says Fikre was a killer. I could not imagine Fikre pulling the trigger to kill. How can a killer live in peace with himself taking his children to kindergarten with absolute tranquillity, pick his wife regularly at the office. That is not how killers like Kiflu live who has never ever been seen in Addis during the post-Derg years and until his departure in 1978. Here is how Dr. Worqu Ferede a Meison leader who knew Fikre in political life says:

Fikre Merid was shot dead by EPRP fighter bullets on Meskerem 23 ,1969 (° September -October 1976). Fikre Merid has been it is true editor of Tateq (journal of Ethiopian students in Europe), then upon his return was selected to become a member of the Mass Organisational Office .Further, he was a lecturer at he Addis Ababa University, Law Department. He was not a die-hard Derg supporter (aqenqagn) or an extreme anti-EPRP militant . On the whole Fikre was a moderate progressive and not an extreme revolutionary. It is not clear why the EPRP chose this young intellectual as its first victim.
(Worku Ferede, Edget Belo wedqet, ye wetader socialism, Addis Ababa, 1990 (1997 p.124)

After several months , the stiff power struggle that has been going on within the Derg led by Menghistu Haile Mariam and his arch opponents Lieutenant Alemayehu and Shaleqa Moges -staunch EPRP supporters - who had succeeded to humiliate and isolate Menghistu for some time, finally ends with a victory of Menghistu following his spectacular coup of Tir 26, 1970 (January 1977). On that day all his rivals Alemayehu, Moges, General Treferi Benti and others were killed and Menghistu becomes the sole uncontested dictatorial power in Ethiopia. It is really as of this date the hunt against the EPRP begins. That is also the moment that Berhane Mesqel choses to launch his splinter EPRP against the main EPRP, in secret. Although some have already started negotiating with the Derg , Berhane Mesqel does not yet seem to have made up his mind to join or not to join the Derg. (Kiflu, II, p.293). The CC which had intelligence about Berhane Mesqels anja was following him, also in secret. Finally, after collecting the necessary documentation the CC decides to take disciplinary measures against Berhane Mesqel and Getachew Maru which in EPRP tradition meant capital punishment. Getachew was arrested and executed..Berhane Mesqel escapes
And starts his anja guerrilla movement in Shoa (Merhabete) with very little success. Nothing worked in favour of the EPRP which was getting into the most desperate situation of its own making , without any outlet to escape the encirclement which its urban killing operation has attracted.. All unauthorised meetings were forbidden. All correspondence was strictly checked. EPRP infiltrated workers associations, schools and youth associations had come into special focus. Arrests and killings were frequent
Magalet or denunciation of EPRP members has become the order of the day in offices , industrial posts, and schools. So many precious workers leaders and youth will be victimised. (Kiflu, II, p.311) And thus we come to the first assessa and demsesa
house to house search and demolition of March 1977 where Tesfaye Debesay meets his death.


Aleme Eshete

Rome, 11-07-03

TO BE CONTINUED .

WHO ARRANGED THE KILLING OF TESFAYE DEBESAY EPRP SECRERTARY GENERAL? THE EPRP ITSELF?


THE GOVERNMENT OF THE ALL PARTY CONFEENCE IS AN EPRP GOVERNMENT: DO YOU WANT TO REMAIN IN EXILE UNDER STILL ANOTHER EPRP ANTI-ETHIOPIA PROXY NON-GOVERNMENT?



FEW FACTS ABOUT THE EPRP


CASE VI, LAST CASE


WHO ARRANGED THE KILLING OF TESFAYE DEBESAY EPRP SECRETARY GENERAL - THE EPRP ITSELF?

Dedicated to Zeru Kehshen



Upon the announcement of the date of the Dergs assessa a number of C.C members including Zeru and Tselote Hezqeyas were sent to Tigrai for security reasons. Some 40 others were sent to the interior of Shoa (Kiflu, II, 317). Kiflu was the man responsible both for conducting the killing operation in the White Terror-Red Terror so called urban guerrilla, as well as for supervising the security of EPRP leaders. But as we have said at the beginning no contingency plan was prepared at all for such an eventuality as an over all house to house assesa and demssesa as the Derg now intended to do. Kiflu tells us that they had organised a places of retreat for safe asylum in Merhabete but that that place is now taken by Berhane Mesqel etc.(Kiflu , II, p.317 Thus according to Kiflu tells several prominent leaders of the party had to make their own arrangements to escape the threat of the assesa. It was decided to spend a few days in the residence of some diplomats, only Kiflu Tadesse and Tesfaye Debesay remained in Addis. Tesfaye is said to have decided to remain in Addis to prepare the forthcoming negotiations with the ELF-EPLF recognising officially their right to secession as finally approved at their last C.C meeting of February 1977. (Kiflu, II, p.302-304,320). It is also said that Tesfaye as Secretary General of the party did not want to abandon his flock at such a critical moment wanted to be present to supervise their security to the limit possible and share their tribulations. However after two days the diplomats who kept Tesfaye were afraid that the qebele revolutionary squad may break into their residence irrespective of the international law and cause problem: Hence they asked him to leave. : Kiflu Tells us that one of the employees a lady wanted to know who Tesfaye was and what he was doing there at that time worried the diplomats. (Kiflu II, p.317). We believe the embassy is the Egyptian embassy as after his death the Ethiopian lady secretary of the Egyptian embassy has identified him as a close friend of the Egyptian ambassador and frequenter of the Egyptian embassy
A few days before the assesa Tesfaye was also seen by a Meison cadre in the car of Dr. Berhane Gebray: I now understand that Berhane Gebray is an Irob and belonging to a prominent Catholic family. With Tesfaye, they are very close family friends and only that could explain Berhane Gebrais decision to carry such a highly wanted person as Tesfaye in his car. Given the close proximity between Fesseha Desta of the Derg and Berhane Gebrai, Meison did not dare take measures against Berhane Gebray to hand over Tesfaye. We are not sure if Tesfayes choice of his final hiding place in Kidane hentsa Philips hentsa is related to Berhane Gebray or not.

The important point is that Tesfaye was left without any sure place to hide. It was also during this period of terror that Yohannes Berhane , Melaku Marqos, an economist and lecturer at Addis Ababa University, Nega Ayele another University lecturer all prominent members of the EPRP, were arrested while trying to leave Addis Ababa in the car of Dr. William Hestings Morten in the direction of Langano. They were arrested at Aqaqi and all of them including Hestings Morten were killed..Under one circumstance or another.

The assesa zemecha started on the morning of Megabit 14, 1969 (March 1977).Apart from the Dergs security under Shaleqa Getachew Shebeshi, a principal EPRP listed target, the entire qebele structure and abiyot tebeqa (revolutionary squads, the Mass Organisational Office, had participated. Kiflu attributes the planning and execution of the assesa to Meison and the Mass Organisational Office. Lots of official declarations were issued advising the inhabitants of Addis Ababa not to leave their houses and move around. EPRP youth were arrested en masse Many armed squads were killed..

What has Tesfaye decided to do? Where has he decided to hide? Finally Kiflu informs us of the improvised solution. Here is the complete account as told by Kiflu: It is important to read it carefully: (Kiflu, II, p.321)


It was decided that Tesfaye should hide at the house of Berihun Marye, a member of the party who lives in Entoto. As the wife of Berihun is among the elected of the qebele it was believed that there was more security at this house. However a day after the start of the assesa Berihun was told that his house will also be searched like any other. Hence another solution had to be found. They decided to pass the day at the office of his wife. At this time offices were not included in the search campaign or assesa. And Berihun and Tesfaye proceed to the office of his wife. On their way Tesfaye wanted to stop at the house of Nuredin Mohamed and having stopped there Tesfaye asked Nuredin if he had seen Kiflu. Tesfaye promised to return and went to join Berihun. It is not known why Tesfaye came to the house of Nuredin. Perhaps he thought of hiding there and finding out another C.C member was already in hiding at the place he did not want to add the risk. we have discovered later the car in which Tesfaye was travelling was being followed by an assash buden ( a squad component running the assesa) accompanied by a Meison cadre who knew TesfayeTesfaye and Berihun who did not suspect that they were being followed arrived at their destination and entered the Kidane Beyene Building and proceeded to the office of Berihuns wife up stairs.. Suddenly Tesfaye will recognises at the place a Meison cadre and decided to leave the building immediately. He will run down the stairs to the ground floor, where he was met by the assash buden that has been following him. The search squad will open fire and kill Berihun immediately while shooting Tesfaye on the head. Tesfaye with his face covered with blood turns and takes the stairs up running. Upon reaching the 6th floor he will jump through a window thus falling to the ground dead.

That is the version told us by Kiflu. Here is what Dr. Negede Gobezie tells us about the affair. Negede was sent by Shaleqa Getachew Shibeshi , head of Derg security, to Kidane Building to assure if the dead person was indeed Tesfaye. Upon arriving he will meet the zonal qebele head, Zerihun Tekle also of Meison He will also find among other people rounded up by qebele Adanch Fesshaye sitting there among other people. The reader will remember who Adanech Fesshaye is. She is the so called friend wife etc. of Kiflu Tadesse who together with him is suspected of being in the service of the CIA since their student days in Moscow. She was there as all in the building were kept under guard by the qebele. Although she was shaken and vividly alarmed at being discovered there by Negede, Negede will pass her as if unnoticed and leave her in peace to live to this date. She will leave the building having shown, as usual, a fake identity. Now the question is What is Adanech doing at Kidane Building? Seeking safety?

When I told Zeru Kehshen a few weeks before his death that Negede has told me that Adanech Fessehaye was present in Kidane Building the day of the death of Tesfaye I cannot tell you the level of his shock and bewilderment. He could not believe me. He said it was not true. Having told him that I was insulted by his refusal to trust me, I called Negede right in front of him and without him suspecting that Zeru was listenning we heard the story all over again. I dont know if Negede will be angry with me for that. The poor Zeru was shocked. Tesfaye Debesay had come into a very large measure to personify the EPRP. It was as if the whole edifice he and his colleagues have been trying to build was indeed a fake. He was convinced that the killing of Tesfaye Debesay was arranged by Kilfu Tadesse and had placed Adanech Fessehaye at Kidane Building to identify him. In fact several people speak of a lady who is said to have called Tesfaye, be ware or something like to help the armed squad hunting him to identify him. At that Tesfaye would run up stairs. It may also be that Tesfaye who knew Zerihun Tekle , the Qebele head, in Europe as student activists, might have run upstairs seeing Zerihun surrounded by soliders. Zerihun , as we shall see later, was not aware who was in Kidane Building and why the soldiers drove him there. Above all Zeru was convinced of the plot arranged by Kiflu because Adanech has hidden to this date her presence at Kidane Building the day Tesfaye was killed. No one in the EPRP knows about it. And as we have seen Kilfu Tadesse hides the fact completely in his volumes and tells us other stories. You may wish to know that Adanech Fishaye is an Irob like Tesfaye and Zeru and almost universally considered an outcast in the Irob community.. Zeru himself, with his pride in Irob identity and Ethiopianity, never mentioned to me the fact of her being an Irob. Zeru told me that Adanech indeed considered herself nor Ethiopian but Eritrean and supported the EPLF in its war against the TPLF (1998-2000). Until his death Zeru repeatedly called me to talk about it and pressing me to publish it. That is also why I dedicate this paper to the memory of Zeru Kehshen..

One irrefutable proof that the killing of Tesaye Debesay was arranged by EPRP itself comes from Menghistu Haile Mariam in person.

Because of the terror and killing unleashed by EPRP there was no more security. I remember Gebeyaw Temesgen they shot him down at the gate of the Derg headquarters. The same fate was reserved to Negussie Negasa. They had infiltrated right to our centre. Our ministers were not able to go to their offices No one was going to work. Many people have started to spend the night in at the Dergs headquarters.. We were calling barbers to our headquarters, because it had become too dangerous to go to town in search of a barber. As it was becoming impossible to go out to town for tea and we had to open a cafeteria inside the headquarters. No one had any security. We had to give a house, a car and arms to every family including the Meison leaders. We can not have guards for everybody. We did not have enough soldiers for that purpose. We were completely at a loss. The EPRP was then ( that is before Menghistus victorious coup d’é tat) controlling more ore or less the whole Addis Ababa.

Therefore we have decided (after Menghistus victory) drastic measures to put a stop to EPRP terror - (the assesa. During the assesa the EPRP leader , Tesfaye Debesay was hiding in Addis Ababa at Philips Building And co-ordinating terrorist assassination throughtelephone communication. We have had the information regarding the whereabouts of Tesfaye Debesay from the EPRP itself.
(Guenet Ayele, Addis Ababa, 1994 (2992), p.206)

The information regarding the whereabouts of Tesfaye Debesay may have reached Menghistu who may have transmitted it to the Getachew Shibeshi of the Dergs security who will send his soldiers to Kidane Hentsa (as Kiflu says) or Philips Hentsa as Menghistu says. I am not sure if the two buildings are one and the same or two, because that is an important issue. Another important is that it is not the qebele of Zerihun or any other Meison group who showed the whereabouts of Tesfayes hiding or did the killing as Kiflu implies. It was the soldiers themselves who had precise information and order who taking the qebele people with them drove direct to the building and on finding Tesfaye Debesay shot him , until he tried to escape and committed suicide.

According to Zeru it was Kiflu who indicated the hiding place of Tesfaye to the Derg. He told me his contact man in the Dergs polit-bureau was Shimeles Mazengia with whom he was in close contact. If that is true and if Kiflu was acting as the Dergs agent within the EPRP we should hold him accountable to the deaths of leaders of workers unions and youth association who one after another will be surprised in their hiding and killed. We have a glimpse of this suspicion in some other indicators.

The first one is the accusation of some CC members, and in particular Samuel Alemayehu , brother of Iyassu Alemayehu, against Kiflu Tadesse of some high treason. The case has exploded after Kiflu finally left Addis Ababa to join the others at Assimba.(Kiflu, III, p.297-298)

Kiflu Tadesse was expelled from the polit bureau for over fifteen months
However that was kept secret from the person concerned. Samuel Alemayehu
Tried by all means to exclude me completely from leadership. But the other central committee members recommended that the case should be considered by confronting Kiflu and hearing his defence.. The case was connected with the urban guerrilla! And terror measures taken by EPRP under Kiflus direction in Addis Ababa. The case had started to be seen by three members of the CC: Zeru Kehshen, Tsegaye Gebre Medhin was taken up by the military complications in Assimba. So the case was left to Samuuel Alemayehu aloneAfter the closure of Assimba and the transfer of the base to northern Gondar) the charge against Kiflu regarding the terror measure was presented to the new enlarged CC and Kiflu was expelled completely from the EPRP leadership. They had agreed that I should not know about my expulsion from the C.C but only from the polit-bureau. In the same way Fikre Zergaw a CC member has been expelled for because suspected of having contacts with people accused of fomenting splinter groups and accused by the military leadership. Also in his case the decision to expel him was taken in his absence. With the new CC Samuel Alemayehu had become all powerful deciding on all affairs he controlled the polit bureau, the secretariat, the guerrilla army business .


Then continues on p.368.

The long awaited EPRP CC plenum was finally held in Sene 1971 (June 1979) in Begemidre, in the Awraja of Chilga at a place called Walenta The meeting took two months. A few minutes before the plenum started Kiflu Tadesse was invited to attend.
When I arrived there I was told that I was expelled for the last fifteen months from the CC but now he has been restored to his former post. I was bewildered by this news which has kept hidden to me for the last fifteen months. I wanted to know my crime and why I have not been brought in public to defend myself. I understood that during the lasdt 15 months I was being surveyed in secret. Special detectives were assigned to follow my movements, my contacts where I spend my days and nights etc. It had been decided that if he was discovered committing the charges he was accused of the necessary measures were to be taken ( in EPRP terminology , capital punishment). Kiflu was being accused of having been responsible for the destruction of the whole of EPRPs political edifice in Addis Ababa. The defamation against Kiflu had grown to such a height that only very few people were willing to approach him or to talk to him. Circulars were sent to all EPRP zonal political and military officials in Begemidre have been warned of the danger of associating with Kiflu. I was being watched by aine quragna (an over all spying network)Kiflu has thus been thus isolated for a year and half. During that time I was not given any job responsibility. I received no assistance not even for food and other necessities. At the plenum Zeru who was there in the Sudan did not participate. (Zeru will never return and will be expelled from the party for unknown reasons)

That is all Kiflu has said about the charge against him . True to the nature of the EPRP we will continue to be kept in the dark until Samuel Alemayehu or some one else comes forward to tell us about the grave accusations against Kiflu Tadese.
But you can already see that the EPRP w3as no more It was only the skeleton that was moving around. With the death Tesfaye Debessay the EPRP may be said to have ended. The closure of the base at Assimba was equally an important marker of the end of the EPRP. .Practically all the founding CC members have either died or left the party. Zeru has left. Other prominent members including Abdisa Ayana, Gebru Mersha, Alem Ante, Ayal Sew, Colonel Alemayehu Asfaw.will all quit for good. It is a pity why with their wealth of information they are not participating ion our discussion.

The other major accusation against Kiflu will come following his publication of the papers published outside following the publication of That Generation, three volumes, in Amharic and in English, by Kiflu Tadesse. Here are the contents of two of these articles.

One of these papers entitled Amhara Tetenqeq (Watch out Amhara) Written by Achenafi Aragaw (Ethiopian Register,August 1996), of Gondar, criticises mainly EPRPs policy on the national question, Walelegns and Berhane Mesqels right of nations and nationalities to self determination up to secession dividing Ethiopia into the oppressor nation , Amhara and the oppressed nations. Then comes more precisely to Kiflus involvement in the politcal development in Western Gondar :

Kiflu was an unruly uncontrollable person (sed).After the departure of Berhane Mesqel , and the death of Getachew Maru and Tesfaye Debesay he was alone deciding on EPRP matters. While members in the country side were crying on the party to withdraw the urban guerrilla campaign of terror killing, as well as the slogan of peoples government against the Derg, he did not want to hear or to see the reality he had pushed still further the terror campaign thus exposing the EPRP membership to harsh repression and death. It was at the end of that , that he left Addis Ababa to gpto Assimba to join the guerrilla forces in the field.

After leaving Addis and joining the guerrilla forces in the field, Kiflu continued
His plot to destroy the EPRP. At the moment wide discussions were going on regrding the partys military situation (which we have seen) and for the region where the EPRP zone of influence now in Begemidre was divided into three
1. Region 1 Tselemt ,and Semen (Jan Amora)
2. Region 2 Armachiho and Chelga
3. Region 3 - Belesa

With CC members co-ordinating large discussions were held in each region
The discussions in Region two were being conducted under the leadership
of Kiflu at Shinsha river on the border between Sudan and Ethiopia between 12/8/72 and
7/9/72 ( May 1978-June 1980)However the organisation of the discussion forum was purposely intended to destroy the organisation and through divide and rule bring the parts into confrontation and bloodshed. There were three separate groups of discussion
1. For party members
2. For youth league members
3. For democrats

Such a division was unheard of in the history of the guerrilla fighters, where each was evaluated only as a guerrilla fighter. The guerrilla forces were therefore alarmed and frightened by what was in store for them. In the mean time a lot of disinformation was being poured by the delegates of Kiflu to divide and disrupt the EPRP force. Consequently many had decided not to attend the meeting and defected to the Sudan or to their native villages. On Genbot 12 , 1972 (>May 1980) two secret meetings were held -one by the party members, and another by the youth league, and decisions taken separately. Among the assignment given to the Youth league was kitchen responsibility toprepare food for party members. The problem started when party members finished their meetings and found no food was prepared for them, as the youth league refused to be their servants. The next day Genbot 13, the youth league blocked the continuation of the meeting until their demands were satisfied. And their demands wee 1.Why have you divided the guerrilla forces, 2.Is this meeting to save the EPRPO or to destroy it further ; Who will take the responsibility for what happens as a result of this division.3. Is it the Delegation (leuk) or the CC itself that made the decision to divide the forces into three. The delegation members ask to consult with Ato Kiflu for any response and Kiflu responds by saying he has to consult the rest of the CC. In the meantime 75% of the membership started leaving with great bitterness. The rest started meeting together from Genbiot 14, to sene 6, without waiting for the response of Kiflu


Another article entitled What do you want that generation to do by a former unnamed EPRP member in Australia wrote in Tobia, (Vol.7, no.7, 1992 or 2000) who had spent ten years of his life in prison, in company of Assefa Chebo, because of his association with the EPRP, and swears semun yanesa ( ie.EPRP) wesho yehun (an Ethiopian swearing expressing once of utter disillusion with a person: Let him who pronounces the name EPRP be turned into a dog). He tells us that his name Ayele was the household name of EPRP members published repeatedly in praise of the his heroic acts, and tells us he was the winner of EPRPs first hero patriot medal. After repeatedly referring as zerkerek ( hectic) a word which many use to describe EPRP , the writer goes on to say:

It could not be denied that placing ourselves behind the Derg, we have been pushing pushing it in the name of revolution, to execute former officials, pushed the youth to be crashed by the tank. With the same mouth that we have cried victory to EPRP we said death to EPRP When I consider that the writer Kiflu was one of my leaders what anger and desperation seizes me. Any one who sees me will pity me seeing much older than my age having sacrificed my youth to the EPRP. This is the leader who has declared war on the Derg, without taking into consideration its capabilities , its force, forgetful of the difference between the _Derg which was fighting with Klashinkov and EPRP defending itself with 38 calibre pistol. I am certain that the lies and propaganda being spread in those years was all the work of Kiflu. The Derg is breaking up into seven parts; Our victory is close If the youth that has sacrificed their life came out of the tomb to see that EPRPs Tito and Alemayehu had signed a secret accord with Colonel Shetaye and Shaleqa Negash, he will certainly opt to go back to his tomb. (After denouncing EPRPs collaboration with the Eritrean secessionists and Somal invaders, the writer turns back to EPRP internal situation) We have been killing qebele leaders when we could have won them back to our side. While the government has been torturing prisoners he was keeping them under shelter in prison. We on the other hand have been torturing prisoners, beating them , destroying their faces by hammering on them with the butts of pistols to kill them in the morning. What stop the Ethiopian people from asking Let EPRP leaders be brought to justice! Leaders like Getachew Maru one of the founders of the EPRP, because he said We are making mistakes. We are uselessly exposing the youth to death. Let us correct, rectify our stand, he was executed by order of Ato Kiflu and co., his face burnt, and his corpse thrown away. Ato Kiflu and co. are also to beheld responsible for the death of Berhane Mesqel ( captured in the woods and killed by the Derg together with Haile Fida in and others in 1977-7Cool. The blood shed of Tewodros (labour leader), Shewaleul, Fikre Merid, Enderyas and other EPRP opponent martyrs, killed by EPRP is not the blood of a hen. A day will come when antem muqecha, muqecha west geba will come true.


By way of conclusion, because of all these crimes committed against the Ethiopian people by the EPRP leadership, by people like Kiflu in particular, In the name of the high sense of justice of the Ethiopians I call upon the APC to expel the EPRP from the APC. I call upon all Ethiopian political parties and civil societies to break their contacts with the EPRP. Such a noble and patriotic measure shall be recorded in history as the beginning , if not of democracy and unity, at least of the beginning of a national independent discussion among Ethiopians, free of imperialist hegemony, regarding the crucial issues of their liberty and sovereignity. In case our call for the expulsion of the EPRP fails to get listening ears in the APC, the ENC cannot escape sharing responsibility for any decision that will be taken by the APC in the name of the EPRP.

Aleme Eshete
Rome, 12-07-03

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የኢሕአፓ ጉዳይ በሌላ አዲስ ገጽ የምንጠያየቅበት መሆኑን ጠቁሜ ነበር :: በዚህ ጽሁፍ ውስጥ በሀገራችን የፖለቲካ ታሪክ ውስጥ ለህዝባችን ነገደ ጎበዜ ያበረከተውን ቀና አስተዋጽኦ ማግኘት አልቻልኩም :: ምናልባት ሳላየው ያለፍኩት ካለ አስምረህበት ብታሳየኝ ::

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ሚስተር -x በዉንቱ አንተ ተልእኮህ ታጋይ ቁርጥ ኢትዮጵያኖችን ስም ለማጥፋት ከወያኔ የተሰጠህን የስራ ድርሻ በስራ ላይ ማዋል ነው ::
የዶ / ነገደን ሥራ ለማውቅ ቢሆን ኖሮ ፍላጎትህ ስለ ወያኔ ህገ መንግስት ስታሊኒስትነት የሚያስረዳ መጻሃፋቸውን በአነበብክ ነበር :: ወይም በረከት መንግስተ አብን በጠየቅኽው ነበር :: / ነገደ ለሰላማዊ ትግል ተሟጋች : ለዴሞክራሲ ላንድንትና ለብሄረሰቦች እኩልነት ተሟጋች ምሁር ኢትዮጵያዊ ግለሰብ ናችዉ ::
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እውነት ብርሀኑ እንደጻፈ(ች)ው:
ሚስተር -x በዉንቱ አንተ ተልእኮህ ታጋይ ቁርጥ ኢትዮጵያኖችን ስም ለማጥፋት ከወያኔ የተሰጠህን የስራ ድርሻ በስራ ላይ ማዋል ነው ::
የዶ / ነገደን ሥራ ለማውቅ ቢሆን ኖሮ ፍላጎትህ ስለ ወያኔ ህገ መንግስት ስታሊኒስትነት የሚያስረዳ መጻሃፋቸውን በአነበብክ ነበር :: ወይም በረከት መንግስተ አብን በጠየቅኽው ነበር :: / ነገደ ለሰላማዊ ትግል ተሟጋች : ለዴሞክራሲ ላንድንትና ለብሄረሰቦች እኩልነት ተሟጋች ምሁር ኢትዮጵያዊ ግለሰብ ናችዉ ::


ጥያቄው ዶክተር ነገደ ጎበዜ ያበረከቱትን አስተዋፅዖ ይኼ : ይኼ ብሎ ይቅረብ ነው :: በቃ Exclamation ዶክተር ነገደ ጎበዜ የመላው ኢትዮጵያ ሶሻሊስት ንቅናቄ (መኢሶን ) አመራር አባል ሆነው ከደርግ ጋር በቀይ ሽብር - ነጭ ሽብር ዘመን ዋና የሕዝብ ድርጅት ጉዳይ ጊዜያዊ ጽሕፈት ቤት ካድሬ ነበሩ :: ያንን እርሣቸውም አይክዱም :: ከዚህ በተረፈ እርሣቸውን አትናገሩብን ብሎ ቡራ -ከረዩን ምን አመጣው Question

እራሣቸውን ' ትውልድ ' : 'ተራራ ያንቀጠቀጠ ትውልድ ' : ወዘተርፈ እያሉ የሚያንቆለጳጵሱት የኢትዮጵያ ልሂቃን ወደዱም ጠሉም አሁን አገሪቱ ለገባችበት ማጥ ቀጥተኛ ተጠያቂ ናቸው ::

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: ተድላ ሀይሉ አንተም ወያኔ ነህ Reply with quote

ተድላ እናንተ ወያኔዎች የሰውን ስም ስታጥፉ ውሽቱን አጣማችሁ እውነት በማስመስል ምሆኑን ድፍን ኢትዮጵያ ያወቀዋል :: ከአለቃችሁ ከዋሾው ከመልስ ዝናዊ የተማራችሁት በመሆኑ በምንም አይንት መልኩ ታሪክን ሌላ አንባቢና አድማጭ ይመረምራል ብላችሁ የታስቡም :: / ነገደ 1977 . ጅምሮ በስድት ላይ የነብሩ መሆናቸዉ እይታወቀ : የደርግ ቀይ ሽብር ደግሞ በሰፊው የተጧጧፈው ከዛ በኍላ መሆኑ እየታውቀ መልሳችሁ መላልሳችሁ / ነገደን ከቀይ ሽብር ጋር ለማያያዝ ትፈልጋላችሁ :: ወያኔዎች ስሙ መኢስኖችንም ጨምሮ የበላ ቀይ ሽብር ነበር የደርግ ቀይ ሽብር :: / ነገደ ከዛ ስው በላ ስረአት በመትረፋቸው እንደመደስት ይልቅ ከዛም አልፎ የወያኔን ስራአት ጸረ ደሞክራሲ ገጽታዉን ሳይንሳዊ በሆነ ጽሁፍ የሚያጋልጡ ምሁር መሆናችዉ እየታውቀ ውያኔዉቸ እኛንመስላችሁ በማሀላችን በመቀላቅል እኝህን ቁርጥ ኢትዮጵያዊ ስማችዉን ለማጥፋት ትፍጨረጨራላችሁ :: እልቅ አለቆቻችሁን ያለአግባብ በቀይ ሽብር በማላከክ ያስሩትን አቶ አበራ የማነአብን እንዲልቁ ንገሩዋቸው :: ታጋይ ኢትዮጵያኖችን በምንም አይነት ልታጭበረብሩ አትችሉም ::
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ምንልባት እኔ ያልደረስኩበትን መረጃ ይዘህ ይሆናልና ታዲያ ይህን ሁሉ ስጠብቅ ምነው ደጅ አስጠናህኝ :: እስቲ የኢትዮጵያ ታሪክ / ነገደን በዚህ በጎ ስራው ሊያስታውሰው ይገባል የምትላቸውን አንድ ሁለት በለኝ :: እንደተለመደው በትግስት እጠብቃለሁ ::

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Re: ተድላ ሀይሉ አንተም ወያኔ ነህ Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: ተድላ ሀይሉ አንተም ወያኔ ነህ Reply with quote

እውነት ብርሀኑ እንደጻፈ(ች)ው:
ተድላ እናንተ ወያኔዎች የሰውን ስም ስታጥፉ ውሽቱን አጣማችሁ እውነት በማስመስል ምሆኑን ድፍን ኢትዮጵያ ያወቀዋል :: ከአለቃችሁ ከዋሾው ከመልስ ዝናዊ የተማራችሁት በመሆኑ በምንም አይንት መልኩ ታሪክን ሌላ አንባቢና አድማጭ ይመረምራል ብላችሁ የታስቡም ::

ደግሞ እኔ ሆንኩ ወያኔው Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz
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/ ነገደ 1977 . ጅምሮ በስድት ላይ የነብሩ መሆናቸዉ እይታወቀ : የደርግ ቀይ ሽብር ደግሞ በሰፊው የተጧጧፈው ከዛ በኍላ መሆኑ እየታውቀ መልሳችሁ መላልሳችሁ / ነገደን ከቀይ ሽብር ጋር ለማያያዝ ትፈልጋላችሁ ::

በራስህ አገላለጽ ለመሆኑ ዶክተር ነገደ ጎበዜ 1977 .. ጀምሮ ሥደት ላይ ከነበሩ እና እንዴት ሆኖ ነው በቀይ ሽብር - ነጭ ሽብር ዘመን ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ያልነበሩት ?

በመጀመሪያ የጻፍከውን መረጃ እንኳን ግራ ቀኙን አጣርተህ መምጣት አልቻልክም :: ዘባራቂ Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

ቀይ ሽብር በይፋ የታወጀው ጥር 26 ቀን 1969 .. የኮሎኔል መንግሥቱ ቡድን በደርግ ውስጥ የነበሯቸውን ተቃዋሚዎች ረሽነው በሬድዮ "ነጭ ሽብር በቀይ ሽብር ይደመሰሳል :: አብዮታችን ከተከላካይነት ወደአጥቂነት ተሸጋግሯል ::" ብለው ያወጁ ዕለት ነበር :: በወቅቱ ያንን መግለጫ ያዘጋጁትና በሬድዮ እና በቴሌቪዥን እንዲሠራጭ ያደረጉት ሌላ ሣይሆን አንተ የምትሟገትላቸው ዶክተር ነገደ ጎበዜ ነበሩ :: አራት ነጥብ ::
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ወያኔዎች ስሙ መኢስኖችንም ጨምሮ የበላ ቀይ ሽብር ነበር የደርግ ቀይ ሽብር :: / ነገደ ከዛ ስው በላ ስረአት በመትረፋቸው እንደመደስት ይልቅ ከዛም አልፎ የወያኔን ስራአት ጸረ ደሞክራሲ ገጽታዉን ሳይንሳዊ በሆነ ጽሁፍ የሚያጋልጡ ምሁር መሆናችዉ እየታውቀ ውያኔዉቸ እኛንመስላችሁ በማሀላችን በመቀላቅል እኝህን ቁርጥ ኢትዮጵያዊ ስማችዉን ለማጥፋት ትፍጨረጨራላችሁ :: እልቅ አለቆቻችሁን ያለአግባብ በቀይ ሽብር በማላከክ ያስሩትን አቶ አበራ የማነአብን እንዲልቁ ንገሩዋቸው :: ታጋይ ኢትዮጵያኖችን በምንም አይነት ልታጭበረብሩ አትችሉም ::

ትሰማለህ : (ይልቅ የስሜት ሕዋሣትህ በትክክል ቢሠሩ እና ኅሊና ቢኖርህ ኖሮ አገር ያወቀውንና ጸሐይ የሞቀውን ሃቅ ክደህ ለነፍሰ -በላ ካድሬ ጠበቃ ሆነህ አትሟገትም ነበር :: ) እንደገና መረጃዎችህን አጣራ ::

ዶክተር ነገደ ጎበዜ ወያኔን ይቃወማሉ : አዎን ይቃወማሉ :: ማለት ግን ቀደም ብለው የሠሩት የፖለቲካ ሥህተት የለም ማለት አይደለም :: ተግባባን Smile Smile Smile

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